I will give this another chance but the last time I used this on my 14 Pro Max it would get hot to the edge of discomfort
Orion 1.0
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also trust that it won't be abandoned like Opera was.
If it gets abandoned—so what? Switching browsers is trivial.
It really isn’t, and especially not when one of the browser’s unique selling points is its multi-browser extension compatibility that no other browser offers.
Also some of us simply don’t want to learn new UIs and/or risk dealing with an “AI” infused alternative if we have a tool that already Just Works. Switching away from Just Works sucks.
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#123I love Orion, but it's pretty unusable with 1Password set up - delay on keyboard input is unbearable with the extension enabled and it slows everything down significantly. I just ran a few benchmarks with BrowserBench Speedometer: 1Password extension disabled: 17 1Password extension enabled: 10 (and the test takes much longer) Vivaldi with extension enabled: 25 I really, really want to move back to Orion as my daily…
I have the same problem. I would move back (and even subscribe to) Orion if 1Password worked properly. I've tried it out a few times since it was originally released and it just didn't work well with 1P.
Yep! I gladly pay money for Kagi since it's great, but I'm not going to pay for a browser that's broken in fundamental ways. I'd be willing to pay for it if they start actually fixing long standing bugs like this.
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#124Thank you offering Orion outside the App Store. I am excited to try it. But where is the offline installer? If you don't collect data, why does the "installer", that has already been downloaded from the internet, need to again connect to the internet to download the browser, which is what the "installer" should already be having within it??
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#125What's the bug situation? It sucked last I checked, over a year ago. Is there a way to get a useful visualization like a burndown chart out of their bug tracker? The people who have created it seem unaware that one important task of such a tracker is to reveal the big picture and help answer questions like "Is the project getting better or worse?" They should study the Github Insights tab. https://orionfeedback.org/
I've tried Orion a couple of times. I even used it as my default browser for ~3 months about two years ago. Most recently, I tried to use it again about 2 months ago, but it still had loads of bugs and, most of all, was painfully slow.
The truth is, Orion being based off of WebKit comes with the obvious limitation that....it's based off of WebKit! So much slower than chrome or firefox, and plagued with decisions that are just not to my taste. For example, just the way it behaves when I hit the back button (or, rather, when I swipe back) feels incredibly sluggish. Loading is often terrible, with constant repaints of the screen as well. A bunch of websites don't work properly either.
The only true reason why I wanted Orion to work was because I wanted a browser that would be good for my battery life and "optimized for the mac". But, since then, I've realized I don't really use the battery that much (or that I don't notice it being a problem), and that, whatever "optimized for the mac" means, it definitely isn't speed.
After Arc went around and poo-pooed on its users, I migrated to Zen (I did try Orion again, like I mentioned). Zen is also filled with bugs, but at least I don't want to throw my computer out the window because of it being slow.
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#126I love Orion on iOS especially because the ability to use desktop extensions in it (some may not work)
Same. Sadly haven't been able to find a working twitch ad mute extension after they made latest anti adblock changes. At least Youtube Live is still in growth phase so I don't get ads there yet
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#127I switched to Orion from Safari a few months ago and so far loving it. I tried Orion a couple of years ago but it wasn't as reliable. Now it seems very stable and the kagi search integration is really nice. On a side note - I don't know why Apple still doesn't let you set a custom search engine in Safari even today, so random.
Google pays Apple billions of dollars to be the default search engine on iDevices. So they have no incentive to allow you to change search engines.
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#128Remember around the early 2000s, every company had a toolbar you could install in your browser? They’d do search, news, IM, plugins, all kinds of things… on many occasions they’d try to squeeze entire websites into these things. You could install more than one toolbar. Some were malware, but there were toolbars that promised security and privacy too (though probably still malware by today’s standards).
Well, if you’ve seen one of those screenshots where 80% of the screen was toolbars and only a fraction left for the viewport … that’s a bit how I feel now when I look at the landscape of browsers today.
Browsers… everywhere, each one trying to grab your attention long enough so you give them clicks, cookies, “anonymised” search queries and who knows what else…
There are no more browsers that fight for the user.
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have the same problem. I would move back (and even subscribe to) Orion if 1Password worked properly. I've tried it out a few times since it was originally released and it just didn't work well with 1P.
Yep! I gladly pay money for Kagi since it's great, but I'm not going to pay for a browser that's broken in fundamental ways. I'd be willing to pay for it if they start actually fixing long standing bugs like this.
Orion Browser is free
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#130I switched to Orion from Safari a few months ago and so far loving it. I tried Orion a couple of years ago but it wasn't as reliable. Now it seems very stable and the kagi search integration is really nice. On a side note - I don't know why Apple still doesn't let you set a custom search engine in Safari even today, so random.
I have Safari on iOS set to use Kagi by default - works fine?