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Launch HN: Onyx (YC W24) – Open-source chat UI

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Re: Launch HN: Onyx (YC W24) – Open-source chat UI

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Post by Weves »

rao-v wrote: post #5

I was pretty excited for Onyx as a way to stand up a useful open source RAG + LLM at small scale but as of two weeks ago it was clearly full of features ticked off a list that nobody has actually tried to use. For example, you can scrape sites and upload docs but you can’t really keep track of what’s been processed within the UI or map back to the documents cleanly. It’s nice to see an attempt at an end to end stack…

Really appreciate the feedback (and glad to hear the core concept resonated with you).

The admin side of the house has been missing a bit of love, and we have a large overhaul coming soon that I'm hoping addresses some (most?) of your concerns. For now, if you'd like to view documents that have been processed, you can check out the `Explorer` panel on the left.

In general, I'd love to hear more about what gives it that "unbaked" feel for you if you're up for a quick chat.

Re: Launch HN: Onyx (YC W24) – Open-source chat UI

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Post by Weves »

tomasphan wrote: post #6

This is great, the value is there. I work for a F100 company that is trying (and failing) to build this in house because every product manager fundamentally misunderstands that users just want a chat window for AI, not to make their own complicated agents. Your biggest competition in the enterprise space, Copilot, has terrible UI and we only put up with it because it has access to email, SharePoint and Teams.

Haha, yea we've seen that exact story many times! Dissatisfied with Copilot and building a (not great) internal solution that is missing polish + most of the "advanced" feature set.

Re: Launch HN: Onyx (YC W24) – Open-source chat UI

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Post by Weves »

katzskat wrote: post #8
tomasphan wrote: post #6

This is great, the value is there. I work for a F100 company that is trying (and failing) to build this in house because every product manager fundamentally misunderstands that users just want a chat window for AI, not to make their own complicated agents. Your biggest competition in the enterprise space, Copilot, has terrible UI and we only put up with it because it has access to email, SharePoint and Teams.

I immediately thought of Google's Agentspace when I saw this product. The value for me sits in its ability to do RAG via connectors.

RAG + connectors is a huge reason why people deploy Onyx (enterprise search roots means we do a pretty good job there).

Also, open-source works really here, since connectors are a long-tail game. We've tried to make it easy to add connectors (a single python interface), and as a result over half of our connectors are contributed by the community. We expect that percentage to grow over time. This means that compared to something like Agentspace, we'll very likely be connected to all of the key tools at your company (and if we aren't, you can easily add an integration).

Re: Launch HN: Onyx (YC W24) – Open-source chat UI

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Post by Der_Einzige »

Sorry, but why use this over oobabooga/sillytavern?

Why do we have to yet again poorly copy an oversimplified UI?

The value of local models comes from their huge amount of settings/control that they offer. Why must we throw that all away?

Yet again, the world waits for good UI/UX for pro/prosumers with AI systems. No one is learning from ComfyUI, Automatic1111, or SillyTavern. No, LM-Studio is not actually prosumer

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