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Social Login Buttons Aren’t Worth It

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Re: Social Login Buttons Aren’t Worth It

#21
Social Login buttons are liked by some users (about 30% from our research [1]) and have the added benefit of giving extra biographical data / friends graphs / etc. Some services need that extra data for sharing features etc.

We run a service that makes it simple to add Email&Password style login, or Social login to your site: http://www.dailycred.com

[1] http://dailycred.tumblr.com/post/30602034530/surprise-people...

Re: Social Login Buttons Aren’t Worth It

#22

We've always found that by replacing "username" with "email address" makes logging in a lot easier. Most users already know their email address. By using a username thats one more thing they have to remember.

Using an email address instead of a username is SO HUGE of a usability win. I can't stand when companies don't do this. My email address is going to be unique. I don't have to pick one of the few standard usernames I use and hope that it's available. I know my email address will be. Have you ever been to a site that says username, but really wants an email address? It's absolutely infuriating.

I use several email addresses for login, including some that are no longer active. When I forget my password on those, I just orphan the account.

Re: Social Login Buttons Aren’t Worth It

#23
One thing that jumped out at me with the "better" error messages, is that it makes it that much more hackable - if I can hit the service and find valid usernames, I can then try to get into those.

If you have a catch-all error message, it's much harder to guess the username/password combo.

Re: Social Login Buttons Aren’t Worth It

#24
Social login is a shadow issue here - like a sheet over a chair, the little buttons are obscuring a larger issue:

Mailchimp found that clarifying login error messages reduced login failures by 66%!!

The rest of the story is a coincidental tale about the CEO trying to pull a "Jobs" by thinking he knew what his customers wanted better than they did. The social media buttons only had an effect on 3.4% of their users, a small group compared to the reduction in failed logins. By making the social login buttons the main point of their blog article, they hide this valuable tidbit.

Re: Social Login Buttons Aren’t Worth It

#25

One thing that jumped out at me with the "better" error messages, is that it makes it that much more hackable - if I can hit the service and find valid usernames, I can then try to get into those. If you have a catch-all error message, it's much harder to guess the username/password combo.

That argument is actually adressed in the post: "The engineering team, ever mindful of security, argued that being generic about username and password errors makes it harder for bad guys to guess usernames by pounding the form with random words or email addresses. But after some further consideration, we decided that it was a false risk, as the username reminder form already tells you if a username exists, and is not a significant security risk for the bajilions of sites that have them".

Re: Social Login Buttons Aren’t Worth It

#26

One thing that jumped out at me with the "better" error messages, is that it makes it that much more hackable - if I can hit the service and find valid usernames, I can then try to get into those. If you have a catch-all error message, it's much harder to guess the username/password combo.

That exact point was addressed in the article (or were you simply unconvinced by how it was addressed?)

Re: Social Login Buttons Aren’t Worth It

#27
I think the bigger point has nothing to do with social buttons or login UX.

Test your changes independently, and make incremental changes

They thought social buttons improved login success. They didn't. An unconnected copy change improved login success. If you test these things independently, you'll get much better insight into what makes a difference.

Re: Social Login Buttons Aren’t Worth It

#28

One thing that jumped out at me with the "better" error messages, is that it makes it that much more hackable - if I can hit the service and find valid usernames, I can then try to get into those. If you have a catch-all error message, it's much harder to guess the username/password combo.

As the article states, they decided that this was a worthwhile risk to take. Users could already use the error handling in new username creation to determine if a username existed.

They decided that the net result outweighed the increased risk.

Re: Social Login Buttons Aren’t Worth It

#29
I've grown to seriously hate OAuth as a login mechanism. It's great for connecting accounts for integration, but I've been burned by it as a login.

On one of my previous projects, Twitter was the only allowed login method. After some complaints, we implemented an email-based login and reduced the bounce rate by over 50%.

Another anecdote: whenever my Asana session expires, I always struggle to remember which Google account I registered with or if I used email. The worst part of their flow is that if you're wrong, a new account is created and you login to a blank slate. It takes forever to find the log out button to try again too.

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