PRC elites voice AI-skepticism
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#2All sensible points:
>Deployment Lacks Coordination
>AI May Fail to Deliver Technological Progress
>AI Threatens the Workforce
>Economic Growth May Not Materialize
>AI Brings Social Risks
>Party elites have increasingly come to recognize the potential dangers of an unchecked, accelerationist approach to AI development. During remarks at the Central Urban Work Conference in July, Xi posed a question to attendees: “when it comes to launching projects, it’s always the same few things: artificial intelligence, computing power, new energy vehicles. Should every province in the country really be developing in these directions?”
Re: PRC elites voice AI-skepticism
#3Apart from the obvious, China seems to be making incredibly reasonable decisions lately. Especially compared to the current superpower.
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#4Apart from the obvious, China seems to be making incredibly reasonable decisions lately. Especially compared to the current superpower.
To be fair, the current superpower has set a pretty low bar. By comparison, most other countries could be said to be making reasonable decisions.
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#5All sensible points: >Deployment Lacks Coordination >AI May Fail to Deliver Technological Progress >AI Threatens the Workforce >Economic Growth May Not Materialize >AI Brings Social Risks >Party elites have increasingly come to recognize the potential dangers of an unchecked, accelerationist approach to AI development. During remarks at the Central Urban Work Conference in July, Xi posed a question to attendees: “whe…
> AI Threatens the Workforce
Under communism, why is this a thing? I know that China hasn't been strictly communist since the Soviets fell but ostensibly, humanoid AI robots under semi-communism is a the dream, no?
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#6All sensible points: >Deployment Lacks Coordination >AI May Fail to Deliver Technological Progress >AI Threatens the Workforce >Economic Growth May Not Materialize >AI Brings Social Risks >Party elites have increasingly come to recognize the potential dangers of an unchecked, accelerationist approach to AI development. During remarks at the Central Urban Work Conference in July, Xi posed a question to attendees: “whe…
> AI Threatens the Workforce Under communism, why is this a thing? I know that China hasn't been strictly communist since the Soviets fell but ostensibly, humanoid AI robots under semi-communism is a the dream, no?
As China is a communist country with a partly capital economy hoping to transition to socialist society. It is still in the process of transition and AI in its current form and controlled by capitalists will destroy their goal of socialist society. It is different when you have AI that any one can own and use from only the few can afford to own and run.
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#7Apart from the obvious, China seems to be making incredibly reasonable decisions lately. Especially compared to the current superpower.
We should probably wait before declaring any decisions "incredibly reasonable". After all, the outcomes of previous rationally-sounding decisions were mixed.
One-child policy, intended to prevent overpopulation, made Chinese birth deficit worse than it would have to be - if it were phased out by 1995 or so, there would likely be at least 100 million more young people now. Chinese real estate bubble popped and had to be carefully deflated over several years. Government-driven mass investment into manufacturing resulted in involution and production surplus which now needs readjustments as well. And as of the AI policy, while the stated reasons sound rational, we don't know how the entire thing will pan out yet.
Ming China banned seafaring and exploration because it cost too much money. A very rational decision from their momentary perspective, as it indeed cost too much money at that time. But it turned out that not having a blue water navy was more costly in the long term.
AI may, or may not, follow a similar trajectory, including various market bubbles (South Sea Bubble anyone?). We just don't know. We don't have crystal balls at our service. Neither do the PRC elites.
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#8All sensible points: >Deployment Lacks Coordination >AI May Fail to Deliver Technological Progress >AI Threatens the Workforce >Economic Growth May Not Materialize >AI Brings Social Risks >Party elites have increasingly come to recognize the potential dangers of an unchecked, accelerationist approach to AI development. During remarks at the Central Urban Work Conference in July, Xi posed a question to attendees: “whe…
> AI Threatens the Workforce Under communism, why is this a thing? I know that China hasn't been strictly communist since the Soviets fell but ostensibly, humanoid AI robots under semi-communism is a the dream, no?
Is it even semi-communism though? IIRC you can't even have an independent union in China
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#9Thats fairly tame and balanced compared to Western skeptics who
outright dismiss it as slop/stochastic parrots with zero useful use-cases.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
> AI Threatens the Workforce Under communism, why is this a thing? I know that China hasn't been strictly communist since the Soviets fell but ostensibly, humanoid AI robots under semi-communism is a the dream, no?
Is it even semi-communism though? IIRC you can't even have an independent union in China
It's State Capitalism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capitalism