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Three Years from GPT-3 to Gemini 3

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Re: Three Years from GPT-3 to Gemini 3

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> Remember 54% of US adults read at or below the equivalent of a sixth-grade level. The sane conclusion would be to invest in education, not to dump hundreds of billions of llms, but ok

In theory yeah, but in practice 54% will also vote against funding education. Catch-22.

Not true, most people are not upper-middle class anti-tax wackos. They benefit from those people being taxed.

Re: Three Years from GPT-3 to Gemini 3

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It is interesting that most of our modes of interaction with AI is still just textboxes. The only big UX change in that the last three years has been the introduction of the Claude Code / OpenAI Codex tools. They feel amazing to use, like you're working with another independent mind. I am curious what the user interfaces of AI in the future will be, I think whoever can crack that will create immense value.

Text is very information-dense. I'd much rather skim a transcript in a few seconds than watch a video. There's a reason keyboards haven't changed much since the 1860s when typewriters were invented. We keep coming up with other fun UI like touchscreens and VR, but pretty much all real work happens on boring old keyboards.

Here's an old blog post that explores that topic at least with one specific example: https://www.loper-os.org/?p=861

The gist is that keyboards are optimized for ease of use but that there could be other designs which would be harder to learn but might be more efficient.

Re: Three Years from GPT-3 to Gemini 3

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Every time I see an article like this, it's always missing --- but is it any good, is it correct? They always show you the part that is impressive - "it walked the tricky tightrope of figuring out what might be an interesting topic and how to execute it with the data it had - one of the hardest things to teach." Then it goes on, "After a couple of vague commands (“build it out more, make it better”) I got a 14 page p…

I keep trying out different models. Gemini 3 is pretty good. It’s not quite as good at one shotting answers as Grok but overall it’s very solid.

Definitely planning to use it more at work. The integrations across Google Workspace are excellent.

Re: Three Years from GPT-3 to Gemini 3

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I think the point is we’re getting there. These models are growing up real fast. Remember 54% of US adults read at or below the equivalent of a sixth-grade level.

> Remember 54% of US adults read at or below the equivalent of a sixth-grade level. The sane conclusion would be to invest in education, not to dump hundreds of billions of llms, but ok

Investing in education is a trap because no matter how much money is pumped into the current model, it’s not making a difference.

We need different models and then to invest in the successes, over and over again…forever.

Re: Three Years from GPT-3 to Gemini 3

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> Again, we have moved past hallucinations and errors to more subtle, and often human-like, concerns. From my experience we just get both. The constant risk of some catastrophic hallucination buried in the output, in addition to more subtle, and pervasive, concerns. I haven't tried with Gemini 3 but when I prompted Claude to write a 20 page short story it couldn't even keep basic chronology and characters straight. I…

I feel like hallucinations have changed over time from factual errors randomly shoehorned into the middle of sentences to the LLMs confidently telling you they are right and even provide their own reasoning to back up their claims, which most of the time are references that don't exist.

I recently tasked Claude with reviewing a page of documentation for a framework and writing a fairly simple method using the framework. It spit out some great-looking code but sadly it completely made up an entire stack of functionality that the framework doesn't support.

The conventions even matched the rest of the framework, so it looked kosher and I had to do some searching to see if Claude had referenced an outdated or beta version of the docs. It hadn't - it just hallucinated the funcionality completely.

When I pointed that out, Claude quickly went down a rabbit-hole of writing some very bad code and trying to do some very unconventional things (modifying configuration code in a different part of the project that was not needed for the task at hand) to accomplish the goal. It was almost as if it were embarrassed and trying to rush toward an acceptable answer.

Re: Three Years from GPT-3 to Gemini 3

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In theory yeah, but in practice 54% will also vote against funding education. Catch-22.

Not true, most people are not upper-middle class anti-tax wackos. They benefit from those people being taxed.

The electorate in the U.S. commonly votes against its own interests.

Re: Three Years from GPT-3 to Gemini 3

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Every time I see an article like this, it's always missing --- but is it any good, is it correct? They always show you the part that is impressive - "it walked the tricky tightrope of figuring out what might be an interesting topic and how to execute it with the data it had - one of the hardest things to teach." Then it goes on, "After a couple of vague commands (“build it out more, make it better”) I got a 14 page p…

I think the point is we’re getting there. These models are growing up real fast. Remember 54% of US adults read at or below the equivalent of a sixth-grade level.

A question for the not-too-distant future:

What use is an LLM in an illiterate society?

Re: Three Years from GPT-3 to Gemini 3

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In theory yeah, but in practice 54% will also vote against funding education. Catch-22.

Not true, most people are not upper-middle class anti-tax wackos. They benefit from those people being taxed.

That's why you phrase it as "woke liberals turning your children gay!"

In USA K-12 education costs about $300k

350 million people, want to get 175 million of them better educated, but we've already spent $52 trillion dollars on educating them so far

Re: Three Years from GPT-3 to Gemini 3

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ChatGPT's voice is absolutely amazing and I prefer it to text for brainstorming.

Ooooh, it bothers me, so, so, so much. Too perky. Weirdly casual. Also, it's based on the old 4o code - sycophancy and higher hallucinations - watch out. That said, I too love the omni models, especially when they're not nerfed. (Try asking for a Boston, New York, Parisian, Haitian, Indian and Japanese accent from 4o to explore one of the many nerfs they've done since launch)

I think the commenter you're replying to was talking about dictating to ChatGPT, which I also find extremely useful.

Re: Three Years from GPT-3 to Gemini 3

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In theory yeah, but in practice 54% will also vote against funding education. Catch-22.

Not true, most people are not upper-middle class anti-tax wackos. They benefit from those people being taxed.

In my own social/family circle, there’s no correlation between net worth and how someone leans politically. I’ve never understood why given the pretty obvious pros/cons (amount paid in taxes vs. benefits received)
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