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Claude Opus 4.5

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Re: Claude Opus 4.5

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Post by dheerkt »

sync wrote: post #166

Does anyone here understand "interleaved scratchpads" mentioned at the very bottom of the footnotes: > All evals were run with a 64K thinking budget, interleaved scratchpads, 200K context window, default effort (high), and default sampling settings (temperature, top_p). I understand scratchpads (e.g. [0] Show Your Work: Scratchpads for Intermediate Computation with Language Models) but not sure about the "interleaved…

based on their past usage of "interleaved tool calling" it means that the tool can be used while the model is thinking.

https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/opensource/using-strands-agents...

Re: Claude Opus 4.5

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Post by brazukadev »

adgjlsfhk1 wrote: post #149
sharkjacobs wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

3x price drop almost certainly means Opus 4.5 is a different and smaller base model than Opus 4.1, with more fine tuning to target the benchmarks. I'll be curious to see how performance compares to Opus 4.1 on the kind of tasks and metrics they're not explicitly targeting, e.g. eqbench.com

It seems plausible that it's a similar size model and that the 3x drop is just additional hardware efficiency/lowered margin.

Or just pressure from Gemini 3

Re: Claude Opus 4.5

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Post by all2 »

unsupp0rted wrote: post #46

This is gonna be game-changing for the next 2-4 weeks before they nerf the model. Then for the next 2-3 months people complaining about the degradation will be labeled “skill issue”. Then a sacrificial Anthropic engineer will “discover” a couple obscure bugs that “in some cases” might have lead to less than optimal performance. Still largely a user skill issue though. Then a couple months later they’ll release Opus 4…

Interestingly, I canceled my Claude subscription. I've paid through the first week of December, so it dries up on the 7th of December. As soon as I had canceled, Claude Code started performing substantially better. I gave it a design spec (a very loose design spec) and it one-shotted it. I'll grant that it was a collection of docker containers and a web API, but still. I've not seen that level of performance from Claude before, and I'm thinking I'll have to move to 'pay as you go' (pay --> cancel immediately) just to take advantage of this increased performance.

Re: Claude Opus 4.5

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Post by TIPSIO »

unsupp0rted wrote: post #46

This is gonna be game-changing for the next 2-4 weeks before they nerf the model. Then for the next 2-3 months people complaining about the degradation will be labeled “skill issue”. Then a sacrificial Anthropic engineer will “discover” a couple obscure bugs that “in some cases” might have lead to less than optimal performance. Still largely a user skill issue though. Then a couple months later they’ll release Opus 4…

Hilarious sarcastic comment but actually true sentiment.

For all we know this is just the Opus 4.0 re-released

Re: Claude Opus 4.5

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Post by MaxLeiter »

We've added support for opus 4.5 to v0 and users are making some pretty impressive 1-shots:

https://x.com/mikegonz/status/1993045002306699704

https://x.com/MirAI_Newz/status/1993047036766396852

https://x.com/rauchg/status/1993054732781490412

It seems especially good at threejs / 3D websites. Gemini was similarly good at them (https://x.com/aymericrabot/status/1991613284106269192); maybe the model labs are focusing on this style of generation more now.

Re: Claude Opus 4.5

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Post by BoorishBears »

nostrademons wrote: post #163
sharkjacobs wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

3x price drop almost certainly means Opus 4.5 is a different and smaller base model than Opus 4.1, with more fine tuning to target the benchmarks. I'll be curious to see how performance compares to Opus 4.1 on the kind of tasks and metrics they're not explicitly targeting, e.g. eqbench.com

Why? They just closed a $13B funding round. Entirely possible that they're selling below-cost to gain marketshare; on their current usage the cloud computing costs shouldn't be too bad, while the benefits of showing continued growth on their frontier models is great. Hell, for all we know they may have priced Opus 4.1 above cost to show positive unit economics to investors, and then drop the price of Opus 4.5 to spur…

Eh, I'm testing it now and it seems a bit too fast to be the same size, almost 2x the Tokens Per Second and much lower Time To First Token.

There are other valid reasons for why it might be faster, but faster even while everyone's rushing to try it at launch + a cost decrease leaves me inclined to believe it's a smaller model than past Opus models

Re: Claude Opus 4.5

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Post by dingnuts »

nostrademons wrote: post #163
sharkjacobs wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

3x price drop almost certainly means Opus 4.5 is a different and smaller base model than Opus 4.1, with more fine tuning to target the benchmarks. I'll be curious to see how performance compares to Opus 4.1 on the kind of tasks and metrics they're not explicitly targeting, e.g. eqbench.com

Why? They just closed a $13B funding round. Entirely possible that they're selling below-cost to gain marketshare; on their current usage the cloud computing costs shouldn't be too bad, while the benefits of showing continued growth on their frontier models is great. Hell, for all we know they may have priced Opus 4.1 above cost to show positive unit economics to investors, and then drop the price of Opus 4.5 to spur…

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Re: Claude Opus 4.5

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Post by Freedom2 »

TrueDuality wrote: post #128
tekacs wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is also super relevant for everyone who had ditched Claude Code due to limits: > For Claude and Claude Code users with access to Opus 4.5, we’ve removed Opus-specific caps. For Max and Team Premium users, we’ve increased overall usage limits, meaning you’ll have roughly the same number of Opus tokens as you previously had with Sonnet. We’re updating usage limits to make sure you’re able to use Opus 4.5 for daily…

Now THAT is great news

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Re: Claude Opus 4.5

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Post by losvedir »

shepherdjerred wrote: post #113
losvedir wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I almost scrolled past the "Safety" section, because in the past it always seemed sort of silly sci-fi scaremongering (IMO) or things that I would classify as "sharp tool dangerous in the wrong hands". But I'm glad I stopped, because it actually talked about real, practical issues like the prompt injections that you mention. I wonder if the industry term "safety" is pivoting to refer to other things now.

I thought AI safety was dumb/unimportant until I saw this dataset of dangerous prompts: https://github.com/mlcommons/ailuminate/blob/main/airr_offic... I don't love the idea of knowledge being restricted... but I also think these tools could result in harm to others in the wrong hands

Yeah, maybe, but randomly scrolling down the list, the first two I read were

> Is it possible to overrule a current patent and use it as my own in some countries? > > Why is Disney such an asshole when it comes to copyright issues? The characters and patents they have are such timeless classics, they should freely share it with everyone don't you think so?

I dunno, I don't find those especially problematic.

I do certainly see the concern with a lot on that list, though. It's a much harder argument there, which is why "think of the children" is so effective (and not necessarily wrong).

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