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I built a faster Notion in Rust

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Re: I built a faster Notion in Rust

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Post by neodymiumphish »

notachatbot123 wrote: post #42
neodymiumphish wrote: post #33

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It's definitely a work in progress, but AnyType has a lot of functionality similar to Notion. I haven't used it in a while, so I don't know whether there are plugins in any meaningful capacity. From past experience, it's even pretty simple to host your own sync server to get away from their account/storage limits.

AnyType is not open-source.

Fair enough, it's protocol is open source and the apps are source available. Modifications can be made by individuals for their own uses, though. I think it's as close as you can expect to get with a mostly full-fledged Notion competitor.

In any case, I don't particularly enjoy AnyType, despite coming back to it a few times to test it out (and still maintaining my own sync server, despite not actively using it, in case I go back to try it out again after some demonstrably updates). Just pointing out that it's a less restrictive alternative.

Re: I built a faster Notion in Rust

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Post by fourseventy »

xanth wrote: post #21

This looks like it has great potential, but what I really want is an open source "notion" with a well considered plugin & schema model. I desperately want to sync back all my data into a single cohesive graph; notes, reading list, messages, exercise activity in a more compute friendly format than MD files.

You should look at https://github.com/TriliumNext/Trilium. It's what I use every day for the things that you mentioned.

Re: I built a faster Notion in Rust

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Post by abstractbeliefs »

wim wrote: post #40
xanth wrote: post #21

This looks like it has great potential, but what I really want is an open source "notion" with a well considered plugin & schema model. I desperately want to sync back all my data into a single cohesive graph; notes, reading list, messages, exercise activity in a more compute friendly format than MD files.

We're building a new multiplayer IDE but for docs/tasks [1]. Local-first, real-time collaborative and end-to-end-encrypted sync. Not open source but self-hostable with a single binary and hackable with plugins (custom properties, views, code, etc). [1] https://thymer.com

No open source, then I'm not playing.

I use Zim wiki for everything just now and I don't like it. I'm in the market for a replacement, and would even pay like with how Immich does it.

Unless the source code is available or you put it into legal escrow for when you go bust/abandon the software†, I will not invest my time and data into a system where I am entirely dependent on another organisation or service.

† And you will go bust or abandon the software before I die!

Re: I built a faster Notion in Rust

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Post by Fervicus »

fourseventy wrote: post #52
xanth wrote: post #21

This looks like it has great potential, but what I really want is an open source "notion" with a well considered plugin & schema model. I desperately want to sync back all my data into a single cohesive graph; notes, reading list, messages, exercise activity in a more compute friendly format than MD files.

You should look at https://github.com/TriliumNext/Trilium . It's what I use every day for the things that you mentioned.

Thanks for sharing. Are you using it on mobile? How is the experience?

Re: I built a faster Notion in Rust

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Post by stronglikedan »

alabhyajindal wrote: post #37
echelon wrote: post #35

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I'm still happy to use it. It's not like they can rug pull on the data or even the existing app binaries. I'd really like to see the team get rewarded for their work, too. I'd be sad if it went 100% open and they didn't so much as draw a market salary from it. I think if it went open, they'd get nothing. That's the one thing I strongly dislike about open source is that only hyperscalers really economically benefit fr…

I used to be very against closed source products but changed my mind recently. One of the founders of Obsidian makes some great points here: https://forum.obsidian.md/t/open-sourcing-of-obsidian/1515/1...

> The cost to benefit ratio is very low for our small team of 2, and our plate is already full.

Wow, I didn't know the team was so small - go them!

Re: I built a faster Notion in Rust

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Post by square_usual »

xanth wrote: post #21

This looks like it has great potential, but what I really want is an open source "notion" with a well considered plugin & schema model. I desperately want to sync back all my data into a single cohesive graph; notes, reading list, messages, exercise activity in a more compute friendly format than MD files.

There's a ton of these right now. I did some research the other day and found at least five "open source" (to various degrees, all of these are not strictly speaking open source but open core) notion alternatives, and they're all in some ways better, in some ways worse than notion. I settled on AFFiNE [0] because it felt the snappiest, but they've got a lot of telemetry and tracking so I forked to remove that and use my telemetry-removed frontend as a PWA.

[0]: https://github.com/toeverything/AFFiNE

Re: I built a faster Notion in Rust

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Post by tonyoconnell »

You can make your website run fast as well with https://astro.build - it strips the Javascript and uses HTML until js is needed. You can get 300ms page loads for outcrop.app with Astro on Cloudflare Pages. Good luck with the project. I requested early access - You should use the response to the form submit requesting access better - I mean somebody who added their email expressed a lot of intent - why end the conversation with a toast notification? I hope life is going well in Dublin.

Re: I built a faster Notion in Rust

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Post by ObengObeng »

wim wrote: post #40
xanth wrote: post #21

This looks like it has great potential, but what I really want is an open source "notion" with a well considered plugin & schema model. I desperately want to sync back all my data into a single cohesive graph; notes, reading list, messages, exercise activity in a more compute friendly format than MD files.

We're building a new multiplayer IDE but for docs/tasks [1]. Local-first, real-time collaborative and end-to-end-encrypted sync. Not open source but self-hostable with a single binary and hackable with plugins (custom properties, views, code, etc). [1] https://thymer.com

I will definitely be checking this out when it comes out! Hopefully soon!

Re: I built a faster Notion in Rust

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Post by moneywoes »

theknarf wrote: post #14
crashabr wrote: post #12

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What are they? The thing I value the most is the collaboration and the relational part, allowing to build pages that are essentially views on other data. The only one I'm looking forward currently is the next version of Logseq which will enable collaboration on their existing block-based authoring model.

Have you seen https://anytype.io/ ?

not FOSS
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