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X's new country-of-origin feature reveals many 'US' accounts to be foreign-run

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Re: X's new country-of-origin feature reveals many 'US' accounts to be foreign-run

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I might have a very different reading of the parable of the cave to you? Can you elaborate? (At the risk of spoiling the joke)

I’ll take a stab: because twitter isn’t reality, it’s a microcosm. A tempest in a teapot. It’s something that if you step outside of, you realize it’s not the real world. Leaving social media can be thought of as emerging from the cave: you interact with people near you who actually have a shared experience to yours (if only geographically) and you get a feel for what real world conversation is like: full of nuance a…

Reddit even more so, thats why you see these 'touch grass' comments littered around.

Re: X's new country-of-origin feature reveals many 'US' accounts to be foreign-run

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I assume the country of origin is detected based on IP address. These fakers will now create Azure VMs hosted in the US, then login to those VMs and use X from the VM. A lot of scammers disguise their location using this method.

Country of origin is based on IP. Many British accounts are using VPNs due to the online safety act and this is noted by X. X also shows the country of the app store the app was downloaded from which is more accurate. Ironically many of the people in favor of banning VPNs are themselves using a VPN.

> Ironically many of the people in favor of banning VPNs are themselves using a VPN.

How do you know this as a fact?

Re: X's new country-of-origin feature reveals many 'US' accounts to be foreign-run

#253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Country of origin is based on IP. Many British accounts are using VPNs due to the online safety act and this is noted by X. X also shows the country of the app store the app was downloaded from which is more accurate. Ironically many of the people in favor of banning VPNs are themselves using a VPN.

> Ironically many of the people in favor of banning VPNs are themselves using a VPN. It’s ironic but also completely typical. Same way so many people publicly freaking out about homosexuality turn out to be gay. There’s something in human nature that makes people shout about the dangers of the things they themselves do, some kind of camouflage instinct I guess.

It seems a little self evident? A heroin addict might say they love it and never want to quit, at the same time say it's harmful, should be banned and nobody should ever try it.

Re: X's new country-of-origin feature reveals many 'US' accounts to be foreign-run

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post #19

I never quite "got" twitter, it was never fun for me to participate on. It's telling / disturbing that folks had such trust in random accounts ...

All social media (including HN) is horrible in some ways. And they all suffer from too many people being overly credulous to random comments. But the problem with over credulity goes far beyond social media. I've gotten strong push back for telling people they shouldn't trust Wikipedia and should look at primary sources themselves.

> I've gotten strong push back for telling people they shouldn't trust Wikipedia and should look at primary sources themselves.

Yeah, but basically nobody is capable of evaluating those sources themselves, outside of very narrow topics.

Reading a wikipedia page about Cicero? Better make sure you can read Latin and Greek, and also have a PhD in Roman history and preferably another one in Classical philosophy, or else you will always be stuck with translations and interpretations of other people. And no, reading a Loeb translation from the 1930's doesnt mean you will fully understand what he wrote, because so much of it all hinges on specific words and what those words meant in the context they were written, and how you should interpret whole passages and how those passages relate to other authors and things that happened when he was alive and all that fun stuff.

And that's just one small subject in one discipline. Now move on to an article about Florence during the Renaissance and oh hey suddenly there are yet another couple of languages you should learn and another PhD to get.

Re: X's new country-of-origin feature reveals many 'US' accounts to be foreign-run

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post #36

I assume the country of origin is detected based on IP address. These fakers will now create Azure VMs hosted in the US, then login to those VMs and use X from the VM. A lot of scammers disguise their location using this method.

Are Azure VMs different to a VPN? Sorry I'm not the most technical. Reason I ask is because there are few people I follow that use VPNs but their location is accurate on X. Also, X also shows where you downloaded the app from, e.g. [Country] App Store, so that one might be a bit more difficult to get around.

It was a bad example as it's quite easy to detect cloud operator endpoints (their internet gateway). Try it sometime and see how many web site make you go through some captcha maze.

They would most likely use residential proxy/vpns that show your traffic coming out of a regular household ISP. They can be purchased for cheap.

Re: X's new country-of-origin feature reveals many 'US' accounts to be foreign-run

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post #19

I never quite "got" twitter, it was never fun for me to participate on. It's telling / disturbing that folks had such trust in random accounts ...

Which ones do you use then besides HN obviously? I'm interested to know what you think = anonymous + trust.

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What did you learn in school that was actually fake?

I didn’t say it was fake, per se. What happens is undersampling that conveniently aliases with a supporting story for the present moral zeitgeist. It’s not hard to find samples that contradict the story. This happens primarily in history, but also in auxiliary classes that touch on history or morality such as various humanities courses and what little is covered of economics.

And this is in contrast to private schools how? Just that they may diverge from the current moral zeitgeist to insert their own morals in the same places?

Re: X's new country-of-origin feature reveals many 'US' accounts to be foreign-run

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post #19

I never quite "got" twitter, it was never fun for me to participate on. It's telling / disturbing that folks had such trust in random accounts ...

hacker news, Reddit and similar have always been about following subjects or topics you like, getting the latest discussion in a field of your interest. twitter was all about following people not topics, so you'd get a wider range of topics, but you tended to focus on accounts more and give more weight to specific users than you might here. If you followed a variety of people it was quite addictive - so many celebrit…

Reddit (at least anything that ever shows up on /r/all) is no different than X/Twitter. Even nice tech subs have the same issues occasionally.

X and Reddit are no different.

Re: X's new country-of-origin feature reveals many 'US' accounts to be foreign-run

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Yep, I effectively landed my favorite job by engaging with the Erlang community on Twitter. I miss it, but it just got to be too toxic during the 2016 election cycle (in fairness, everything was too toxic then, and it hasn’t gotten better since).

I think that ALL communities become toxic as they grow I often hear that one community, or another, is "really good, not toxic at all, which is true when it starts (for tech, whilst it's "new" and everyone is still interested in figuring out how it works, sharing their learnings, and actively working to encourage people to also take interest) Then idealism works it way in - this community is the greatest that every e…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September

Re: X's new country-of-origin feature reveals many 'US' accounts to be foreign-run

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X obviously isn't the only platform where this is taking place and it is curious as to why they rolled it back. how open are you to a US citizen verified town square online? You'd have to scan your passport or driver license to post memes and stuff.

> how open are you to a US citizen verified town square online? You'd have to scan your passport or driver license to post memes and stuff. I had this same idea before and it’s not terrible. If it guaranteed user privacy by using an external identification service (ID.me?), it might get some attention. You would likely have to reverify accounts every 6 months or so to limit sales of accounts, and you would need to pr…

You could easily builds this, but my guess is people would use it but very sparingly.

My small neighborhood has a non-anonymous chat group, which is 2-3 streets (~50 houses) inside a village which is inside a city. It is basically just a mini nextdoor but without ads or conspiracies.

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