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You won't believe how nice Notch's office is

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Re: You won't believe how nice Notch's office is

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As a (steel & glass) architect I'm certain this is not an expensive office when compared to other tech companies. I think most people are being fooled by the "high-class americana" style, but really this does not cost more than a high-end minimalist office. Question the style choices, sure, but the assumption that is in anyway more expensive than average is completely false.

If the price is about the same, why does anyone go for glass & steel? This is so much better.

While it's refreshingly different to look at, I think that this look would get pretty tiresome after just a few week.

There's an ad agency here in Seattle called the Wexley School for Girls that has a crazy office space with an all-white room and a Chinese restaurant section, etc. Written about here: http://www.seattleite.com/creative-spaces-unique-seattle-off...

when I walk by, I always think it would be cool to work in a place like that, but I don't think I would enjoy it, long-term.

Re: You won't believe how nice Notch's office is

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post #12
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You know what the first thing I pick up on is? Everyone is dressed nice. I don't know if that's just for the camera, but I see suits and vests all around. They look classy in a classy office. I wonder how the office would look if notch was wearing cut off shorts and a wife beater.

They don't dress that way all the time. From what I've gathered they have "Formal Fridays". At first when I saw Notch mention this on Twitter I was a bit confused, but now I see it goes nicely with the theme of their office.

I do the same thing (though I call it "Fancy Friday") and I strongly suggest that you try it if you're at all curious.

Re: You won't believe how nice Notch's office is

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post #69

An interesting observation, on Kotaku the comments are focusing on a weird jealousy over Notch's success. Comments about people suddenly regretting buying a license to Minecraft, saying how tasteless the offices are, or how bad things are in Africa.

Pro tip: Never read the comments on Kotaku.

You're welcome.

Re: You won't believe how nice Notch's office is

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Erm, 0x10c?[0] That's shaping up to be potential Minecraft-level success, if Notch can deliver what has been promised. [0] http://0x10c.com

One can only wonder if this game is going to be too geeky to cross over to significant adoption. I know a lot of people that got into Minecraft that would probably struggle with 0x10c.

While I initially assumed the same, I think 0x10c could possibly evolve into a state that allows even casual players to be able to jump in without getting involved in the geekier aspects.

For instance it be possible to have a Minecraft-esque gameplay mechanic on the planets and, as a player, to acquire through some in-game currency a pre-designed spacecraft created by others. So it could be played as an ordinary space trading game to an extent. In this form it'd be an extension of Minecraft.

For others, I can see guilds being set up around exploitation of the programmable computers onboard spacecraft, with guilds developing their own encrypted communications protocols and attempting to break those of their competitors while still engaging in standard space game warfare with the added extra of electronic warfare. This is far geekier, but it has scope for players of varying skill levels occupying different roles without having to learn how to program the DCPU-16. This would be a sort of EVE Online scenario.

There are other combinations that would be available, given a big enough community, a way to exchange items and the right gameplay dynamic. If Mojang gets that right and sells it right then 0x10c may potentially become a huge hit.

Of course what I've described is ambitious in what's required from the game and there are a million things that could go wrong and make it too hard to make a game with this breadth and flexibility. The odds are against Notch and his team, but if they do succeed I think it'll be epic.

Let's not forget that to an outside observer Minecraft is very geeky and quite confusing. It's a game without any gaming like most are used to, yet over time interest snowballed and non-gamers got into it based on recommendations. I hope the same could happen with 0x10c.

Re: You won't believe how nice Notch's office is

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post #44

No light No light This is some kind of ultimate mancave, I can't imagine a girl working in there.

Hey, I don't know why you assume Mojang doesn't employ women. They totally have ... uh ... two female employees out of 28? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mojang_AB#Current_employee... Oh, so that's why. Incidentally, I don't mean to call you out in particular, but when you call grownup female programmers "girls," lots of very cool women will decide to hang out somewhere else -- sort of for the same reason black me…

My bad (English is not my native). I hope i haven't offended any women.

Also, I did not mean to imply anything about Mojang, it's just that the place looks masculine [1].

[1] https://www.google.com/search?num=10&hl=en&safe=off&...

Re: You won't believe how nice Notch's office is

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post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the price is about the same, why does anyone go for glass & steel? This is so much better.

Personal preferences, design philosophies, lots of reasons. I find that office to be pretty unappealing, personally.

Same, I think it looks like they bought a bunch of expensive furniture for a renovated-in-the-90s-rambler. The juxtaposition and lack of dominant style isn't very appealing.

Re: You won't believe how nice Notch's office is

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post #14

Time will tell, but this is beginning to sound like echos of Ion Storm[1]. We've already got our Deus Ex out of Mojang, though -- my girlfriend and I still regularly play Minecraft together -- so I can't really feel any enmity for them. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_Storm

While I didn't think exactly of Ion Storm, this photo did remind me a bit of the extravagance of that generation of "rock star" developers. Not saying that out of any malice or jealousy of Notch or Mojang - just being honest about my gut, knee-jerk response.

Re: You won't believe how nice Notch's office is

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, I don't know why you assume Mojang doesn't employ women. They totally have ... uh ... two female employees out of 28? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mojang_AB#Current_employee... Oh, so that's why. Incidentally, I don't mean to call you out in particular, but when you call grownup female programmers "girls," lots of very cool women will decide to hang out somewhere else -- sort of for the same reason black me…

> Incidentally, I don't mean to call you out in particular, but when you call grownup female programmers "girls," lots of very cool women will decide to hang out somewhere else -- sort of for the same reason black men in the US aren't going to love it if someone calls them "boys." I agree with you that calling female programmers and coworkers as girls is demeaning, but it IS NOT the same as calling a black man a boy,…

Calling females "girls" or otherwise infantalizing them was used to deny them property, bodily autonomy, voting rights and independent personhood. The abolition and marriage property rights movements went hand in hand.

I'm not arguing that they are equivalent, but both are part of a long history of violent oppression.

Re: You won't believe how nice Notch's office is

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, I don't know why you assume Mojang doesn't employ women. They totally have ... uh ... two female employees out of 28? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mojang_AB#Current_employee... Oh, so that's why. Incidentally, I don't mean to call you out in particular, but when you call grownup female programmers "girls," lots of very cool women will decide to hang out somewhere else -- sort of for the same reason black me…

> Incidentally, I don't mean to call you out in particular, but when you call grownup female programmers "girls," lots of very cool women will decide to hang out somewhere else -- sort of for the same reason black men in the US aren't going to love it if someone calls them "boys." I agree with you that calling female programmers and coworkers as girls is demeaning, but it IS NOT the same as calling a black man a boy,…

I totally get what you're saying, and I know any comparison of different groups with different troubles is tricky. They're not identical. But I'll stand behind the analogy.

Take a look at how 1950s professional men in Mad Men call their female coworkers "girls." You know what the legal context was? Women were literally a lower caste than men. Didn't have the same rights to divorce, didn't have the same rights to appear in court, didn't have the same rights to serve on juries, didn't have the same rights to take many respectable jobs, didn't have a right to equal pay for the jobs they could take, didn't have the right to stop their husbands from raping them, didn't have the same rights to inherit property. 50-year-old women were called "girls" by 30-year-old men because the law itself treated women like servants, wards, or objects rather than independent adults. And this was true throughout the United States when you, or your mother, or your grandmother was born.

So I do think it's similar to the kind of issues that black men have with "boy." But thanks for your thoughtful response, even if I disagree. I try not to rant about this stuff, and I hate that we have to cope with it all in order to have a simple conversation, but here we are. There's plenty of crappy history to go around.

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