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Re: Disney Lost Roger Rabbit

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The power dynamic is very asymmetrical. Disney is ABSOLUTELY free to negotiate with him to continue distributing the movie, running the ride, etc.

It has been 35 YEARS and Disney's failed to do anything else with the IP. The original creator wants to make a sequel, and now he's able to.

Also: you mentioned a scenario where you might make a video game and wanted to be able to distribute it in perpetuity. Unless you based the video game on some pre-existing creative work that someone else came up with (Roger Rabbit's Raucous Riot or something), you WILL retain the rights. Termination of copyright doesn't apply to works made for hire [0] (i.e., if you pay your employees to create the IP, it doesn't apply).

TLDR; fuck the mouse.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Act_of_1976#Terminat...

Re: Disney Lost Roger Rabbit

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> What's the point of buying something if the other person is allowed to steal it back.

Well in the case of the very thing we're talking about, the point was apparently to make $330 million in a single year in the 1980s

Re: Disney Lost Roger Rabbit

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Sorta related since Disney held a share in it previously but Dick Tracy exclusive rights are still held by Warren Beatty who produced and starred in the role back in 1990. He had to fight off a challenge from Tribune Media in court decades ago but stipulation was he had to produce new Dick Tracy stuff every few years. It’s lead to a series of increasingly surreal late night specials on TCM where he appears in character and talks about random stuff and the 1990 movie, last time was in 2023: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MwKncYwtec4

Re: Disney Lost Roger Rabbit

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> What's the point of buying something if the other person is allowed to steal it back.

If you can't make a profit off of a licensed property after 35 years of exclusive control, you've done something horribly wrong. If you sit on a licensed property and do nothing with it for decades, it should be allowed to revert to someone else, or better yet go into public domain.

Re: Disney Lost Roger Rabbit

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> copyright only gives us something to bargain with, without giving us any bargaining power, which means that copyright becomes something we bargain away.

This quote sums up a lot of the issues with current copyright laws in a very elegant way.

Re: Disney Lost Roger Rabbit

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> This is a nightmare scenario for a creator: you make a piece of work that turns out to be incredibly popular, but you've licensed it to a kind of absentee landlord who owns the rights but refuses to exercise them.

This nightmare scenario involves selling the rights to your character to a company that has the ability to produce, advertise and cast a movie with talented actors.

I'm certain I never would have heard of Roger rabbit had it not been sold.

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