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X's new country-of-origin feature reveals many 'US' accounts to be foreign-run

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Re: X's new country-of-origin feature reveals many 'US' accounts to be foreign-run

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every conversation of note here on HN is heavily manipulated too. any discussion platform where accounts can promote or demote other messages are all subject to rampant manipulation and propaganda.

Niche subjects are much nicer because there's often no incentive to manipulate.

Re: X's new country-of-origin feature reveals many 'US' accounts to be foreign-run

#102
post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Russia hires people in Africa: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/mar/13/facebook-...

> The network was small: just 49 Facebook accounts, 85 Instagram accounts and 71 Twitter accounts in question. This is the pattern with all Russian influence operations; they’re always implied to be ominously large and end up being laughably small. American political polarization had nothing to do with the Russians; this is just the refrain of frustrated Democrats who refuse to acknowledge the consequences of ill-con…

It would be silly if the Russians weren't stirring shit up in the enemy camp.

That's what the Russians do. It's too difficult to improve their own country, their own lives, and their own prospects, so they focus on the next-best strategy for the acquisition of power, which is dragging everybody else down to their level.

Re: X's new country-of-origin feature reveals many 'US' accounts to be foreign-run

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  While the location now shows US, X notes that the account location might not be accurate due to use of VPN
Just 'now'... not when signing up for their account?

It's cheap and easy to use social media to propagandize, so certainly there are scores of fake American accounts, but it's irritating that this article doesn't address VPN-usage during account creation.

Re: X's new country-of-origin feature reveals many 'US' accounts to be foreign-run

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post #19

I never quite "got" twitter, it was never fun for me to participate on. It's telling / disturbing that folks had such trust in random accounts ...

Probably the thing I loved about it most was the fact that I could talk directly with people that I felt had a real impact in the world Scientists/Researchers Journalists Activists Politicians Subject Matter Experts (for the fields I am interested in) There were (when I was using it) a large number of "troll" accounts, and bots, but it was normally easy to distinguish the wheat from the chaff You could also engage in…

Yep, I effectively landed my favorite job by engaging with the Erlang community on Twitter. I miss it, but it just got to be too toxic during the 2016 election cycle (in fairness, everything was too toxic then, and it hasn’t gotten better since).

Re: X's new country-of-origin feature reveals many 'US' accounts to be foreign-run

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post #83
post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s an interesting phenomenon. I don’t think people en masse have trust in any of these accounts. But when your feed is filled with the kind of stuff they say day in day out it still affects your overall perspective of the world. “No smoke without fire” on a subconscious level.

I've felt it through my guilty pleasure of scrolling instagram reels periodically. They've obviously changed their algorithm from time to time and it's crazy how I've intermittently have gotten endless right wing stuff and leftist ridiculing and thinking there's a lot good points. Then it's suddenly just convincing leftist material again or at best you're-all-dumb content. It's really fucked how the online content pr…

The internet has created low intentionality people.

Re: X's new country-of-origin feature reveals many 'US' accounts to be foreign-run

#106
post #19

I never quite "got" twitter, it was never fun for me to participate on. It's telling / disturbing that folks had such trust in random accounts ...

For a long time, I did not get twitter either. But it seems to be the only popular platform where the academics and intellectual class want to hangout. Economists, researchers, policy wonks prefer posting on twitter over any other social platform.

Re: X's new country-of-origin feature reveals many 'US' accounts to be foreign-run

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not author of parent. My impression of the joke is that intelligent and knowledgeable people willingly engage with social media and fall into treating what they see as truth, and then are shocked when they learn it's not truth. If the allegory of the cave is describing a journey from ignorant and incorrect beliefs to enlightened realizations, the parent is making a joke about people going in reverse. Perhaps they…

> intelligent and knowledgeable. people willingly engage with social media and fall into treating what they see as truth, and then are shocked when they learn it's not truth. I also see this with AI answers relying on crap internet content.

Most content on the internet has been optimized to get attention, not to represent truth.

AI trained on most content will be filled with misconceptions and contradictions.

Recent research has been showing that culling bad training data has a huge positive impact on model outputs. Something like 90% of desirable outputs comes from 10% of the training data (forget the specifics and don't have time to track down the paper right now)

I really hope that AI business models don't fall into relying on getting and keeping attention. I also hope the creators of them exist in a win-win relationship with society as a whole. If AIs compete with each other based on which best represent truth, then overall things could get a lot better.

The alternative seems dreadful.

Edit: I am curious why this is getting downvoted.

Re: X's new country-of-origin feature reveals many 'US' accounts to be foreign-run

#108

America outsourcing its rage is peak USA. McKinsey would be proud

It's not the USA outsourcing rage, it is foreign actors paying to manufacture rage in the USA.

While a handful troll factories are paid to destabilize USA, vast majority operate from 3rd world countries with only profit in mind.

Re: X's new country-of-origin feature reveals many 'US' accounts to be foreign-run

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post #23
post #13

This is another piece of a mosaic that is going to reveal that grey zone warfare by Russia against the west has much larger scope than most people are aware of. The UK National Crime Agency uncovered a huge money laundering enterprise based on the kinds of crime that fly under the national security radar in most places.

> This is another piece of a mosaic that is going to reveal that grey zone warfare by Russia against the west has much larger scope than most people are aware of. Are you people ever going to let this idea go? Almost all of this activity is coming out of India, Israel, and Nigeria. Russia isn’t mentioned once in the article.

You think IP addresses can't be spoofed rather easily?

What political interest does a Nigerian have in swaying US opinion?

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