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We Induced Smells With Ultrasound

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Re: We Induced Smells With Ultrasound

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I'm a little bit skeptical but i dont have any objective argument or experience in the field to justify it. I didn't want to post it, but I was surprised that almost no one in the hn comments had the same feeling. Don't get me wrong, I would love this finding to be replicable, it would be pivotal as what other nerves could we stimulate to change perception (think pain, mental health issues, loss of senses). Also, I w…

Chiming in as a reply to your comment since I had a similar feeling. There's no... institution!? No university or other institution listed. They list author names, which is something. But no institution, no paper, no heritage of research concepts. No citations outside of a few NIH ones not especially specific to their particular experiment. No real meaningful discussion of mechanisms. The domain itself doesn't have a…

Microorganisms, the greenhouse effect, and celestial bodies Uranus and Pluto were discovered by people without prior scientific credentials. If somebody stumbles upon an interesting observation which cannot be explained by an obvious mistake, it's worth taking and reproducing seriously.

Re: We Induced Smells With Ultrasound

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This seems interesting.

Me wonders if this can be applied to other parts of the brain, perhaps recalling long buried memories? In my case, "a 12‑lexeme mnemonic constellation that operates as a cognitive entropy incantation, each syllabic particle mapping onto a quantized shard of an authorization singularity’s randomness reservoir. This ordered cascade of linguistic quanta serves as a deterministic bootstrap constant, re‑materializing access to a distributed transactional continuum avatar via recursive derivation algorithms. In practice, it’s a compact neuro‑linguistic checksum spell, a bridge where human cortex patterns resonate with machine‑level information‑integrity archetypes, conjuring identity from chaos like a linguistic particle accelerator, aka ₿" ;)

Re: We Induced Smells With Ultrasound

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chiming in as a reply to your comment since I had a similar feeling. There's no... institution!? No university or other institution listed. They list author names, which is something. But no institution, no paper, no heritage of research concepts. No citations outside of a few NIH ones not especially specific to their particular experiment. No real meaningful discussion of mechanisms. The domain itself doesn't have a…

Microorganisms, the greenhouse effect, and celestial bodies Uranus and Pluto were discovered by people without prior scientific credentials. If somebody stumbles upon an interesting observation which cannot be explained by an obvious mistake, it's worth taking and reproducing seriously.

Every raving crank tells this story to themselves about how they're the next Galileo, and that they are the exception that warrants suspending our skills for critical interrogation.

I think this is cool, plausible and warrants investigation, but not suspension of disbelief. There needs to be a better way to go about this than responding "what about Galileo!?" to any principled application of critical thinking.

Re: We Induced Smells With Ultrasound

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post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microorganisms, the greenhouse effect, and celestial bodies Uranus and Pluto were discovered by people without prior scientific credentials. If somebody stumbles upon an interesting observation which cannot be explained by an obvious mistake, it's worth taking and reproducing seriously.

Every raving crank tells this story to themselves about how they're the next Galileo, and that they are the exception that warrants suspending our skills for critical interrogation. I think this is cool, plausible and warrants investigation, but not suspension of disbelief. There needs to be a better way to go about this than responding "what about Galileo!?" to any principled application of critical thinking.

Your offhand dismissal of citizen science with an anecdote about an endless stair video edit is not a well principled application of critical thinking.

One has to set prejudice to the side and examine the claim being made to apply criticl thinking.

Re: We Induced Smells With Ultrasound

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post #151

I'm a little bit skeptical but i dont have any objective argument or experience in the field to justify it. I didn't want to post it, but I was surprised that almost no one in the hn comments had the same feeling. Don't get me wrong, I would love this finding to be replicable, it would be pivotal as what other nerves could we stimulate to change perception (think pain, mental health issues, loss of senses). Also, I w…

This is TFUS [1] with a novel target.

It looks like independent hackers with a strong technical background and little regard for decorum.

Their methodology seems reasonable, and their results are plausible.

I’m reserved about the final part of the post where they moot about applications, but the core result seems solid. They elicited osmosphenes like one can elicit phosphènes by targeting the visual cortex.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcranial_focused_ultrasoun...

Re: We Induced Smells With Ultrasound

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Reminiscent of a finding reported at a neurology conference in the 1960s that served as the epigraph to J.H. Prynne’s collection of poems Wound Response : “Of particular interest in the present context are the observations made on patients whose middle ear had been opened in such a way that a cotton electrode soaked in normal saline solution could be placed near the cochlea. A total of 20 surgically operated ears wer…

Can't wait to use the term gustatory sensation to describe a meal, might save that one for Christmas dinner!

Re: We Induced Smells With Ultrasound

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It doesnt have to smell like the porno set. They could choose any smell that stimulates arousal.

For some reason this sent my train of thought towards the "people who think their shit doesn't stink" expression. Is it still shitposting if it actually smells nice?

My brain went the down the same path. For some reason I imagined posting a YouTube clip of me farting, along with a nice scent of rose petals.

I don't think I'm ready for this technology

Re: We Induced Smells With Ultrasound

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This seems interesting. Me wonders if this can be applied to other parts of the brain, perhaps recalling long buried memories? In my case, "a 12‑lexeme mnemonic constellation that operates as a cognitive entropy incantation, each syllabic particle mapping onto a quantized shard of an authorization singularity’s randomness reservoir. This ordered cascade of linguistic quanta serves as a deterministic bootstrap constan…

This seems like poetry

Re: We Induced Smells With Ultrasound

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post #151

I'm a little bit skeptical but i dont have any objective argument or experience in the field to justify it. I didn't want to post it, but I was surprised that almost no one in the hn comments had the same feeling. Don't get me wrong, I would love this finding to be replicable, it would be pivotal as what other nerves could we stimulate to change perception (think pain, mental health issues, loss of senses). Also, I w…

Don't get me wrong, I would love this finding to be replicable, it would be pivotal as what other nerves could we stimulate to change perception (think pain, mental health issues, loss of senses).

There's quite a lot of research in this direction (stimulation, be it ultrasound or otherwise) to tackle exactly things you mention. Not completely sure but probably stimulators to suppress epilepsy are the most common. It has been proven in animal research stimulating the right area induces visual stimuli - IIRC this has been tested and confirmed in humans as well, i.e., make people see again. And there's more going on.

In the end: everything in the brain is electrical current. Meaning that in theory stimulating the right bits can do pretty much everything.

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