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Are consumers just tech debt to Microsoft?

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Re: Are consumers just tech debt to Microsoft?

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Another point not mentioned in this article is that Windows desktops are incredibly slow these days. I did some compilation tests on a 2025 Windows desktop with an i9 vs some MacBooks and a new top-of-the-line Windows machine can’t even keep up with a bottom-tier M1 MacBook Pro. https://www.tyleo.com/blog/compiler-performance-on-2025-devi...

Some of that may be due to cpu architecture differences. What you have done is more or less an apples to oranges comparison.

Re: Are consumers just tech debt to Microsoft?

#32
I think of it a different way. The consumer market (if Microsoft doesn’t value it) is holding them back from paying tech debt. The fear of regressions is a good reason to not touch stuff.

If you do value a market and ignore this, the consequences can be fatal (see Sonos). But if you don’t, then doing the minimum is rational.

Re: Are consumers just tech debt to Microsoft?

#33

No, consumers are not tech debt to Microsoft. Yes, Microsoft is shifting away from consumer technology. The difference is Microsoft is squeezing every last drop of profit from consumers on their way out. That’s not debt, that’s an asset. In 25 years Microsoft will be similar to Oracle. Maybe they’ll have investments in some consumer brands, but largely they will be selling to enterprises and governments.

I'm young, I'll take that bet. In 25 years windows will still have greater than 50% consumer computer marketshare out of sheer momentum.

Re: Are consumers just tech debt to Microsoft?

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Yeah, this book was hugely influential https://www.google.com/search?q=innovator%27s+dilemma&ie=UTF... And came to the conclusion that many firms like DEC and Xerox did not sufficiently move to new technology because their customers were not interested and didn’t feel served by it, at least not until it had decades to improve. Today we have the FOMO dilemma where executives all read that book and no way they are goin…

Link to Worldcat book information: https://search.worldcat.org/title/1423132421 Alibris link: https://www.alibris.com/The-Innovators-Dilemma-When-New-Tech...

thanks, gp's google link was unusable for me (apparently my activity is unusual)

Re: Are consumers just tech debt to Microsoft?

#35
post #17

Nobody seems to want to use Copilot, but Microsoft is in a great position when AGI "drop-in office workers" become a thing. They can just provision however many virtual coworkers to a Microsoft Teams instance and you'll be handing off documents and chatting with the AGI workers pretty much as you would any other remote worker. Microsoft doesn't have to be first or best here. Just owning the plumbing of so many presen…

I'm very happy that "AGI office workers" will use Microsoft products - so I don't have to do it anymore... But: they will not pay a dime for the licenses...

Re: Are consumers just tech debt to Microsoft?

#36
> Considering Apple’s focus on consumers first

What does it mean specifically for the OS? What were the exciting improvements you've noticed that would entice that switch? Is the liquid glass design that is making it harder to read text "costumer first"?

> The third thing is gamers. Gamers use Windows largely because they have to

But also not entirely to game, so the case for an OS where almost all the basics/apps are even worse, why would they switch?

Re: Are consumers just tech debt to Microsoft?

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post #17

Nobody seems to want to use Copilot, but Microsoft is in a great position when AGI "drop-in office workers" become a thing. They can just provision however many virtual coworkers to a Microsoft Teams instance and you'll be handing off documents and chatting with the AGI workers pretty much as you would any other remote worker. Microsoft doesn't have to be first or best here. Just owning the plumbing of so many presen…

For the average office task they don’t seem far off being competent, at least to the average workers quality.

Ai builder with gpt5 + workflow triggers is very capable already. 1-2 more model generation hops needed plus a bit more “agent” plumbing before its game over for the excel and word jobs.

Re: Are consumers just tech debt to Microsoft?

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post #29
post #17

Nobody seems to want to use Copilot, but Microsoft is in a great position when AGI "drop-in office workers" become a thing. They can just provision however many virtual coworkers to a Microsoft Teams instance and you'll be handing off documents and chatting with the AGI workers pretty much as you would any other remote worker. Microsoft doesn't have to be first or best here. Just owning the plumbing of so many presen…

A new Turing test: when all the AGI worker bots would rather gargle razor blades than use Microsoft Teams, we might be close.

>use Microsoft Teams

Shit like this make rogue AI scenarios totally plausible. I won't wish that on my worst enemy

Re: Are consumers just tech debt to Microsoft?

#40
post #32

I think of it a different way. The consumer market (if Microsoft doesn’t value it) is holding them back from paying tech debt. The fear of regressions is a good reason to not touch stuff. If you do value a market and ignore this, the consequences can be fatal (see Sonos). But if you don’t, then doing the minimum is rational.

I think it’s just like Steve Jobs said: they have no taste. That never changed and it causes them to fail time and again with innovations
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