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Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

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Hey MacOS switchers, welcome. Please know that closing the last window doesn’t quit the application. Quitting the application quits the application. That’s why the icon is still in the dock.

That's literally the default behavior in macOS, with some exceptions.

In fact that’s how it always worked. Apps that don’t work that way, including Apple’s, are “wrong”.

Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

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I will never get used to Gnomes lack of native support for minimizing windows. I actually had to lookup how they expected users to manage windows, as it was not obvious to me. Apparently you’re supposed to move windows to another virtual desktop to get them out of the way. As someone who has never really clicked with virtual desktop, this doesn’t work for me. This feels like such a glaring omission of a convention th…

If open windows are bugging you, you can simply move to a new workspace, as you mention. There's a keyboard shortcut, so that's actually very easy to do. Gnome is very different from more common desktop environments, but if you accept to try and work with it the way it's designed, it can be productive and enjoyable.

Doesn’t that bother you? Honest question, as it feels “conceptually dirty”.

There is something of “if the room is too messy don’t tidy it, just move to another room” in it that bothers me.

Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

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I will never get used to Gnomes lack of native support for minimizing windows. I actually had to lookup how they expected users to manage windows, as it was not obvious to me. Apparently you’re supposed to move windows to another virtual desktop to get them out of the way. As someone who has never really clicked with virtual desktop, this doesn’t work for me. This feels like such a glaring omission of a convention th…

I agree. GNOME 2 was simple and beautiful. Then it became completely unusable.

It looks like it's been designed by someone who never has to use a computer.

Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

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Reading that and looking at the pictures, it just seems like the parts he likes are the parts that slavishly copy the macOS style.

Reading it closely, that's a bit of an oversimplification. The article focuses pretty heavily on functionality over style, where doing the equivalent thing in macos is either silly or near impossible to achieve

Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

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I will never get used to Gnomes lack of native support for minimizing windows. I actually had to lookup how they expected users to manage windows, as it was not obvious to me. Apparently you’re supposed to move windows to another virtual desktop to get them out of the way. As someone who has never really clicked with virtual desktop, this doesn’t work for me. This feels like such a glaring omission of a convention th…

> As someone who has never really clicked with virtual desktop, this doesn’t work for me. This feels like such a glaring omission of a convention that has been around for decades (even in past versions of Gnome). As someone who uses Gnome simply because IMHO the alternatives like KDE are worse, I came to the conclusion that these people do not work on desktop computers. It feels like an interface designed for tablets…

I'm a KDE User, by no means a power user. I would love to know what makes KDE Worse over GNOME, I come from Windows Land so its workflows tended to work best for me. but I can see from a MacOS User how GNOME might fit their habits better.

Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The number one thing keeping me on macOS is Universal Clipboard with my iPhone. I copy+paste URLs, 2FA codes, and images between devices all day long.

This is my favorite feature of KDE Connect on Linux.

KDE Connect can integrate seamlessly with iPhones?

Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

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I will never get used to Gnomes lack of native support for minimizing windows. I actually had to lookup how they expected users to manage windows, as it was not obvious to me. Apparently you’re supposed to move windows to another virtual desktop to get them out of the way. As someone who has never really clicked with virtual desktop, this doesn’t work for me. This feels like such a glaring omission of a convention th…

IMHO the Gnome team should bake in Dash to Dock and Desktop Icons NG into the core package. To me they are essential to get a proper functioning desktop in Gnome and it blows my mind that they are just 3rd party extensions when really it should be 1st party support.

Ubuntu already does this with their build.

Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the difference between "minimize" and "hide"? "Hide" is readily available in the context menu of a window (right-click on its toolbar). (Personally I rarely hide anything, I just have a messy stack of a zillion windows all the time... but I suppose that's not for everyone.)

Minimize affects a single window. I expect for "hide" to hide all windows associated with an application.

Which can simply be achieved by switching to another Workspace. The concept is not much different. Just slightly different presentation.

Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

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GNOME is underfunded - bugs are not fixed for years, PRs are not reviewed for months. It might look more shiny on the surface, but once you realize something doesn't work - you're on your own. See for example this: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/4051 Nobody is assigned to fix these.

> Nobody is assigned to fix these.

Who would be assigning people to the issues? People scratch their own itches or work on what their employer needs them to do.

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