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Gnome is better macOS than macOS

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Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

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Post by amelius »

nik736 wrote: post #7

What I am missing with Gnome is the global menu I have with macOS. It's just my preferred way of working. This is also what I liked about Unity. Gnome seems to follow the same direction as Windows. Additionally miller columns in Finder are just awesome and I don't have them with Nautilus. Those two things are honestly dealbreakers for me.

I like that Unity puts the global menu on the side. This makes more sense with all the wide-screens that we have nowadays. A huge oversight in MacOS, if you ask me.

Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

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Post by joelthelion »

al_borland wrote: post #10

I will never get used to Gnomes lack of native support for minimizing windows. I actually had to lookup how they expected users to manage windows, as it was not obvious to me. Apparently you’re supposed to move windows to another virtual desktop to get them out of the way. As someone who has never really clicked with virtual desktop, this doesn’t work for me. This feels like such a glaring omission of a convention th…

If open windows are bugging you, you can simply move to a new workspace, as you mention. There's a keyboard shortcut, so that's actually very easy to do.

Gnome is very different from more common desktop environments, but if you accept to try and work with it the way it's designed, it can be productive and enjoyable.

Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

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Post by unethical_ban »

Citizen_Lame wrote: post #8
paulbgd wrote: post #3

Totally agree. Lots of friends who game have been asking for advice on linux now that they don’t want to update to windows 10. I’ll show them both gnome and plasma, and they’ll usually try kde then switch to gnome because it’s so darn easy to use. It’s opinionated, the settings app is easy to navigate (with the downside being, tweaks/gsettings is needed), and simple stuff like shutting down/switching audio input/wifi…

Said no one ever. GNOME is barely a desktop at this point. You need buggy extensions just to restore basic functionality, which says everything. In many ways, GNOME has become the epitome of a FOSS misfire: opinionated to a fault, driven by a loud minority, and offering users less choice instead of more. Plasma, on the other hand, has made huge strides in usability, performance, and overall polish. It feels modern, e…

I was a GNOME fan in the 00s, then I really liked Unity from Ubuntu, and now in the 2020s I have switched to KDE. KDE is super powerful but (as a technical person) easy to discover options. The basic sound/wifi/system stuff is really easy to access, the global search in the menu is wonderful.

Best part about Unity was that you could hold down the meta button, and it would reveal the cheatsheet for all the other window manipulation shortcuts.

BUT... the person above you did literally say they think GNOME is better and that's fine too.

Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

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Post by jghn »

joelthelion wrote: post #12
al_borland wrote: post #10

I will never get used to Gnomes lack of native support for minimizing windows. I actually had to lookup how they expected users to manage windows, as it was not obvious to me. Apparently you’re supposed to move windows to another virtual desktop to get them out of the way. As someone who has never really clicked with virtual desktop, this doesn’t work for me. This feels like such a glaring omission of a convention th…

If open windows are bugging you, you can simply move to a new workspace, as you mention. There's a keyboard shortcut, so that's actually very easy to do. Gnome is very different from more common desktop environments, but if you accept to try and work with it the way it's designed, it can be productive and enjoyable.

> you can simply move to a new workspace.

Like the person to whom you're replying, I don't *want* another workspace, virtual desktop, or anything of the sort. Ever. So a system built around a model of "simply move to a new workspace" doesn't work for me. Period.

Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

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Post by amelius »

hexbin010 wrote: post #5

I don't know why Gnome et al switched to imitating MacOS – adopting a dock (as a default), ditching an app window tray as on Windows, when the potential Windows-convert market is much larger than Mac. The Dock can be really jarring for Windows users - they are coming from an OS literally called windows, and the windows are hidden from view. It also eats vertical space with those huge icons, which is precious given th…

> I don't know why Gnome et al switched to imitating MacOS

Car analogy. If the most popular brand puts a steering wheel in the front left, then it makes sense to do the same even if a joystick has better UX.

Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

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Post by al_borland »

nik736 wrote: post #7

What I am missing with Gnome is the global menu I have with macOS. It's just my preferred way of working. This is also what I liked about Unity. Gnome seems to follow the same direction as Windows. Additionally miller columns in Finder are just awesome and I don't have them with Nautilus. Those two things are honestly dealbreakers for me.

I went looking for a file manager with miller column on Linux once. It seems to be an extremely rare feature. With how popular column view is in Finder, I don’t understand how it hasn’t made its way to other platforms as a commonplace feature.

Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

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Post by joelthelion »

jghn wrote: post #15
joelthelion wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If open windows are bugging you, you can simply move to a new workspace, as you mention. There's a keyboard shortcut, so that's actually very easy to do. Gnome is very different from more common desktop environments, but if you accept to try and work with it the way it's designed, it can be productive and enjoyable.

> you can simply move to a new workspace. Like the person to whom you're replying, I don't *want* another workspace, virtual desktop, or anything of the sort. Ever. So a system built around a model of "simply move to a new workspace" doesn't work for me. Period.

Then Gnome isn't for you. It's an opiniated desktop, you have to accept its way of doing things.

Re: Gnome is better macOS than macOS

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Post by nicoburns »

nik736 wrote: post #7

What I am missing with Gnome is the global menu I have with macOS. It's just my preferred way of working. This is also what I liked about Unity. Gnome seems to follow the same direction as Windows. Additionally miller columns in Finder are just awesome and I don't have them with Nautilus. Those two things are honestly dealbreakers for me.

KDE's Dolphin file manager has miller columns. It won't blend in on Gnome, but it will work just fine.
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