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Demand for UK Food Bank Up 15% Year on Year

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Re: Demand for UK Food Bank Up 15% Year on Year

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Post by zwnow »

wtcactus wrote: post #6
zwnow wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At what point will it get worse, a planned economy or a free economy based on greed? Life is getting more unaffordable with each passing day. Corporations need to be put in their place given that politicians dont even have backbones anymore as soon as they smell corpo money.

A planned economy will always, always get worse. All historical examples show us that. But you are free to give us an example of a planned economy that worked properly and brought freedom and prosperity to their citizens. Just one single example will suffice. P.S. I see the downvotes, but I don't see a single example. Just one...

So you are blind to the current economies, gotcha

Re: Demand for UK Food Bank Up 15% Year on Year

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Post by mytailorisrich »

The title was edited for some reason, the actual one is:

"Budget 2025: how inflation and the two-child benefit cap has increased poverty"

And indeed this is an article against the 2-child benefit cap.

This is obviously full of warm feelings but ignores the tough question of the individual responsibility not to have more children than one can afford. The article interviews a family with 4 young children and apparently no money, for example...

Regarding poverty in general, I think the main issue in the UK is that there has been no economic growth since the financial crisis and GDP per capita is decreasing, i.e. people are getting poorer, which bites those on low/no income first and most.

Re: Demand for UK Food Bank Up 15% Year on Year

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Post by varispeed »

ktallett wrote: post #2

It will only get worse whilst costs are not regulated of essentials such as housing, food, utilities, and public transport. The rich need to be taxed on all UK based assets and income no matter where you live and we need to restrict profit and pricing accordingly. We can't keep being held hostage by those who wish to increase their bank balance year on year. Now we have no incentive right now as those who are in gove…

It's not capitalism, but corruption. Subsequent governments have been shovelling billions to tax avoiding multi national corporations without checks and balances. "Taxing the rich" is a distraction. Correct action is investigate corruption and cut spending. For instance NHS reliance on agencies - they pay agency for a nurse £2,500 a day, nurse gets £500 from agency if lucky, £2k goes offshore. That's how our money is sucked out of the economy. Multiple that by every local authority to government departments and you'll see billions are going to waste. But current government is too corrupt to do something about it. Soon they'll claim we have best food banks in the world and support for working people... whilst corporations are laughing all the way to the bank.

Re: Demand for UK Food Bank Up 15% Year on Year

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Post by wood_spirit »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #12

The title was edited for some reason, the actual one is: " Budget 2025: how inflation and the two-child benefit cap has increased poverty " And indeed this is an article against the 2-child benefit cap. This is obviously full of warm feelings but ignores the tough question of the individual responsibility not to have more children than one can afford. The article interviews a family with 4 young children and apparent…

People made the decision to have each child at least 9 months before the child was born. And in the subsequent years and 9 months anything could have happened, eg illness or losing a job. So even careful planners might be unlucky enough to need food banks?

Re: Demand for UK Food Bank Up 15% Year on Year

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Post by sixtyj »

zwnow wrote: post #5
wtcactus wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, yeah. Regulating the food prices is the trick here. That went really well in the Soviet Union and Mao’s China... just to name a couple of examples. It's funny that for some people, the answer of the enormous failings of Marxism is always "We need even more Marxism!"

At what point will it get worse, a planned economy or a free economy based on greed? Life is getting more unaffordable with each passing day. Corporations need to be put in their place given that politicians dont even have backbones anymore as soon as they smell corpo money.

In long term, corporations can buy everyone, unfortunately.

This is the fact, and I would say that almost no one is immune to money offer. (You have to be very financially secured. But then, you are probably from the similar class as corporate people. -> simulate level of greed)

If you (as governmental employee) have some issue to solve, e.g. alimony or faster mortgage repayment, you are vulnerable… and you have to have very strong conscience not to accept any “services”. It is similar to be strong not to ear sugar or fat-loaded chips or drinking…

Re: Demand for UK Food Bank Up 15% Year on Year

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Post by zwnow »

sixtyj wrote: post #16
zwnow wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At what point will it get worse, a planned economy or a free economy based on greed? Life is getting more unaffordable with each passing day. Corporations need to be put in their place given that politicians dont even have backbones anymore as soon as they smell corpo money.

In long term, corporations can buy everyone, unfortunately. This is the fact, and I would say that almost no one is immune to money offer. (You have to be very financially secured. But then, you are probably from the similar class as corporate people. -> simulate level of greed) If you (as governmental employee) have some issue to solve, e.g. alimony or faster mortgage repayment, you are vulnerable… and you have to h…

Are you trying to excuse politicians for being corrupt due to being vulnerable?

Re: Demand for UK Food Bank Up 15% Year on Year

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Post by ukrefugee »

jmyeet wrote: post #9

For the last 50+ years, Western governments have largely acted to funnel wealth from the poor to to the wealthy. Each economic crisis seerms to have ushered in a big jump in inequality. The OPEC oil crisis, 1987, recessions in the 1980s and 1990s, the dot-com bubble, the GFC and Covid. Ultimately this is going to correct. My preference is that it corrects by governments enforcing a fairer distribution because otherwi…

tax revenues are higher than ever, government spending is higher than ever, social programs and social spending is higher than ever

also self entitlement, reliance on the government is at the highest, individual autonomy is at the lowest ever

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Post by barbazoo »

ukrefugee wrote: post #18
jmyeet wrote: post #9

For the last 50+ years, Western governments have largely acted to funnel wealth from the poor to to the wealthy. Each economic crisis seerms to have ushered in a big jump in inequality. The OPEC oil crisis, 1987, recessions in the 1980s and 1990s, the dot-com bubble, the GFC and Covid. Ultimately this is going to correct. My preference is that it corrects by governments enforcing a fairer distribution because otherwi…

tax revenues are higher than ever, government spending is higher than ever, social programs and social spending is higher than ever also self entitlement, reliance on the government is at the highest, individual autonomy is at the lowest ever

Source?

Re: Demand for UK Food Bank Up 15% Year on Year

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Post by sixtyj »

zwnow wrote: post #17
sixtyj wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In long term, corporations can buy everyone, unfortunately. This is the fact, and I would say that almost no one is immune to money offer. (You have to be very financially secured. But then, you are probably from the similar class as corporate people. -> simulate level of greed) If you (as governmental employee) have some issue to solve, e.g. alimony or faster mortgage repayment, you are vulnerable… and you have to h…

Are you trying to excuse politicians for being corrupt due to being vulnerable?

Of course, I don’t excuse them. But I see news about corruption all around so I think that it is very tough society mental issue to solve.
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