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Rust Isn't the Future of Systems Programming – It's Just the Hype Cycle

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Re: Rust Isn't the Future of Systems Programming – It's Just the Hype Cycle

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Post by bigyabai »

ls-a wrote: post #3
bigyabai wrote: post #2

This is AI-generated, and seems to just be the standard-flavor C++ cope. Not sure why I should spend any time refuting it or reconsidering my system architecture.

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There's nothing to refute. It's a garden-variety panic that was identified and fixed.

The person recording that video sounds manic and doesn't make any points besides their own feeling of prejudice. It basically confirms my point above.

Re: Rust Isn't the Future of Systems Programming – It's Just the Hype Cycle

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Post by ls-a »

bigyabai wrote: post #4
ls-a wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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There's nothing to refute. It's a garden-variety panic that was identified and fixed. The person recording that video sounds manic and doesn't make any points besides their own feeling of prejudice. It basically confirms my point above.

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Re: Rust Isn't the Future of Systems Programming – It's Just the Hype Cycle

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Post by WCSTombs »

> Rust shines when memory safety is critical (OS kernels, cryptography), but in most real-world scenarios, the trade-offs don't justify the pain.

You've got to be kidding me...

Memory safety is a huge benefit in myriad scenarios. I would call it the rule, not the exception. Pair that with competitive performance and you have something really compelling. I don't know enough Rust to really speak to its tradeoffs, but the above just seems like a dumb point to try to make.

And regarding the "hype cycle," Rust is old enough now to have survived many actual software hype cycles, so this claim of us finally getting to the middle of it now, which isn't really justified in the article, also doesn't seem to stick.

Re: Rust Isn't the Future of Systems Programming – It's Just the Hype Cycle

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Post by bigyabai »

ls-a wrote: post #5
bigyabai wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's nothing to refute. It's a garden-variety panic that was identified and fixed. The person recording that video sounds manic and doesn't make any points besides their own feeling of prejudice. It basically confirms my point above.

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Again - there's nothing to refute. The only accusation in the video is that there is some grand conspiracy against C++ users, which would give Chris Lattner a belly laugh.

If it is you recording that video, I hope you get over it. You can find a better way to process your grief than complaining on all three of your HN accounts.

Re: Rust Isn't the Future of Systems Programming – It's Just the Hype Cycle

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Post by DemocracyFTW2 »

ls-a wrote: post #5
bigyabai wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's nothing to refute. It's a garden-variety panic that was identified and fixed. The person recording that video sounds manic and doesn't make any points besides their own feeling of prejudice. It basically confirms my point above.

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> Speaking of manic this is the third time you completely re-write your reply in a few minutes

Speaking of manic you're the one who checked how many rewrites there were within a few minutes so who's manic?

Re: Rust Isn't the Future of Systems Programming – It's Just the Hype Cycle

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Post by aw1621107 »

bigyabai wrote: post #7
ls-a wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Again - there's nothing to refute. The only accusation in the video is that there is some grand conspiracy against C++ users, which would give Chris Lattner a belly laugh. If it is you recording that video, I hope you get over it. You can find a better way to process your grief than complaining on all three of your HN accounts.

> If it is you recording that video, I hope you get over it. You can find a better way to process your grief than complaining on all three of your HN accounts.

Based on the profile pic and the other videos on the channel, I think it's reasonable to conclude that the channel owner is also the author of the C++ fast_io library [0]. They've been quite vocal about their dislike of Rust (among other things) over the past few years, so I wouldn't expect that to change any time soon.

No comment on whether ls_a is or isn't connected to the channel owner; just thought I'd give a bit more background on the video uploader.

[0]: https://github.com/cppfastio/fast_io

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