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McDonald's is losing its low-income customers

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Re: McDonald's is losing its low-income customers

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Post by onraglanroad »

walthamstow wrote: post #293
somenameforme wrote: post #274

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I find it bemusing that so people are simultaneously extremely agitated by high prices but also completely disinterested in doing anything except paying them. With this mindset it's not particularly hard to guess which direction they'll trend in over time, even if the world wasn't going nutters. I mean these things are not difficult to make. They even freeze extremely well, and then you toss them in the microwave for…

I don't know where you get the assumption that people who eat McDonalds can't or don't also cook their own fresh food from scratch.

I think it's from living in the world and actually meeting people.

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Post by ProllyInfamous »

mac-attack wrote: post #298
ProllyInfamous wrote: post #280

If you're ever in GA/TN/NC, check out Cook Out and Pal's fast food establishments. They cost just a little more than national chains , for a much more satisfying meal (still fast food tho). Things I miss most about Austin (2nd-gen that left, a decade ago): H-E-B Grocery and P'Terry Hamburgers .

in response to an article about high costs, I'm not sure suggesting a more expensive option serves a purpose...

You pay about 15% more for twice the food (at much higher quality).

From Cook Out, for $11, I can make two meals with two deserts.

Re: McDonald's is losing its low-income customers

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Post by dangus »

rixed wrote: post #76
dangus wrote: post #50

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You usually get a free meal per shift if you have any sort of half decent owner at basically any fast food restaurant.

So, that's a "no" since that meal costs less that it would if bough over the counter?

I’m just going to sidestep this and point out the stupidity of this comparison.

Does it magically prove I’m making a bad salary if I can’t afford my employer’s product?

Is a five star general making a bad salary because he can’t afford a nuclear submarine?

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Post by shmeeed »

ghc wrote: post #335
diogenescynic wrote: post #301

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Propaganda? COVID was the third most common verified cause of death in the US in the first 18 months after the lockdown started in March, and that's despite the lockdown. That's 10x more deaths per month than the particularly bad flu last year. Do you not remember the morgue trucks? The whole health system was overwhelmed.

Too many people either never saw or forgot about the morgue trucks. Or the footage that showed flocks of vultures circling over south american cities from afar. Desperate people coughing and dying in their own cars in hospitals' driveways. Body bags littering the floors of hospitals in third world countries.

All of that happened, but it went right over a lot of people's heads, and nobody talks about it anymore because it became such a sore and divisive topic and we're all glad it's over.

I remember well the video showing a whole column of military trucks transporting bodies out of the city of Bergamo, Italy, on March 19th, 2020. I took a screenshot because the magnitude of what this meant gave me shivers. It was one of those moments when the world seemed to stop for a minute and was changed forever like on 9/11, to me at least.

Ever since, I can't find much common ground for discussion with people claiming it was just a flu. You either acknowledge the difference or you don't.

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Post by bastawhiz »

hyperpower wrote: post #295
bastawhiz wrote: post #292

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I went to the grocery store and bought six meals worth of whole foods for two people two weeks ago. Rice, veggies, two fish meals, two meals based on eggs (I already had the eggs), one meal based on chicken. Thirty grams of protein for each meal. I had staples in my pantry already. I aimed for 2200 calories per person per day. I didn't buy organic because it's more expensive. This wasn't Whole Foods or some bougie st…

$35 for 6 meals for two people at McDonalds? What? Where I live, one meal at McDonalds is about $12. So 6 * 2 * 12 = $144. Not that much of a difference. Also, if you aimed for 2200 calories per person per day with that $170, then it isn't really fair comparing to a single McDonald's meal, is it? It sounds like buying whole foods is cheaper.

Sorry, I didn't multiply by two; it would have been $70. I checked the nutrition facts on the menu, it was a mix of meal deals and had nearly the same calorie counts that I was aiming for. Still less than half the cost of groceries (minus all the food I already had).

But if we're talking about the balance of macronutrients, I'd love to hear how you manage to beat the cost of fast food with legumes/nuts/yogurt and don't have a huge percentage of your calories from fat. 40g of protein from almonds is nearly a thousand calories and 90g of fat. 40g of protein from black beans is five Chipotle bowl orders worth of beans or four cups of fava beans. 35g of protein from nonfat Greek yogurt is nearly 3/4 of a pound of yogurt. If you can't stand to eat nearly a pound of nonfat yogurt in one sitting like most of the population, you'll only get 30g of protein from a 32oz tub and spend as much as a McDonald's sandwich (and get the same amount of fat).

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Post by bastawhiz »

forinti wrote: post #372

I only ever enter a McDonald's for coffee and there seems to be an issue with my order more often than not. And there is always someone very upset about their order. It's really not an inviting place.

That's pretty standard for fast food coffee. Dunkin is notorious for just winging it.

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Post by johnisgood »

abracadaniel wrote: post #351
inglor_cz wrote: post #327

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Because they lack the skill? You seem to take the ability of people to cook for granted. I don't think it is automatic anymore. Generational transmission of some skills has ceased. Jamie Oliver famously asked British school kids to name objects such as an apple, a potato or a cucumber, and plenty of them did not know. They just stared at the raw vegetables/fruits, baffled. And as of now, you cannot simply vibe-cook u…

My grandmother cooked daily and taught her kids to cook. My mother cooked weekly and taught us to use the microwave. Sure anyone can learn to cook, just like anyone can learn to play the piano, but it requires time, money, dedication, and the push to get started. It’s much easier if you were taught some of the basics as a kid, or had an example in your life.

It still baffles me that people compare cooking to playing an instrument. It really is not that difficult to cook, depending on what it is. Do people know how to make schnitzel (breadcrumbed meat)? Make fries? Make rice? Make boiled potatoes? Or are those things difficult as well? Making a stew out of legumes is not that difficult either. Boil your legumes, then mix eggs, flour, and paprika together, put it in oil, heat it up for a few seconds, then pour everything into the water you are boiling your legumes in. Put some herbs to your liking. That is literally it. Healthy, delicious stew of any legumes.

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Post by diogenescynic »

shmeeed wrote: post #375
ghc wrote: post #335

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Propaganda? COVID was the third most common verified cause of death in the US in the first 18 months after the lockdown started in March, and that's despite the lockdown. That's 10x more deaths per month than the particularly bad flu last year. Do you not remember the morgue trucks? The whole health system was overwhelmed.

Too many people either never saw or forgot about the morgue trucks. Or the footage that showed flocks of vultures circling over south american cities from afar. Desperate people coughing and dying in their own cars in hospitals' driveways. Body bags littering the floors of hospitals in third world countries. All of that happened, but it went right over a lot of people's heads, and nobody talks about it anymore becaus…

So then why isn't it happening now? Why did Israel not fare better despite their much higher vaccination rates than Gaza without any vaccinations? It was never a pandemic and never anything more than a severe flu.

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Post by johnisgood »

throw-the-towel wrote: post #367
lotsofpulp wrote: post #364

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Different skills take different amounts of time and parameters to master. Comparing learning a language to watching a video or reading a recipe and spending a few weeks adding some oil and spices in a pot or pan is ridiculous.

Sorry, I wanted to sound edgier and made my point less clear! What I wanted to convey is, it's waaaaay easier to learn a skill when you've been exposed to it since you were a baby.

My mother and grandmother cooked, but I have never participated, I just ate the food. Does it count as exposure?
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