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McDonald's is losing its low-income customers

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Re: McDonald's is losing its low-income customers

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Post by xg15 »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #220
delichon wrote: post #209

> Her brother, who works as a cashier, can’t afford meals out at all, she said. The cost of his diabetes medication has increased greatly, to about $200 a month, which she helps him cover. This is an often unacknowledged part of the cost of fast food. It turns susceptible people into diabetics. As a diabetic there is little I can eat there, since I manage it with food not drugs. When I do I get a burger and throw out…

It is unusual to see young people make the choices to not turn into patients. It costs very little to eat mostly lentils/legumes/nuts/yogurt/vegetables, and drink mostly water without carbs dissolved in it, but no business is going to survive selling those things.

Where is the next cheap lentils/legumes/nuts/yogurt/vegetables fast food restaurant?

I think it's a weird concept of a society where all the parts of it with money are directing people to do one thing - but at the same time, the people are expected to do the exact opposite and it's their own fault if they follow the coercion...

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Post by bastawhiz »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #220
delichon wrote: post #209

> Her brother, who works as a cashier, can’t afford meals out at all, she said. The cost of his diabetes medication has increased greatly, to about $200 a month, which she helps him cover. This is an often unacknowledged part of the cost of fast food. It turns susceptible people into diabetics. As a diabetic there is little I can eat there, since I manage it with food not drugs. When I do I get a burger and throw out…

It is unusual to see young people make the choices to not turn into patients. It costs very little to eat mostly lentils/legumes/nuts/yogurt/vegetables, and drink mostly water without carbs dissolved in it, but no business is going to survive selling those things.

I went to the grocery store and bought six meals worth of whole foods for two people two weeks ago. Rice, veggies, two fish meals, two meals based on eggs (I already had the eggs), one meal based on chicken. Thirty grams of protein for each meal. I had staples in my pantry already. I aimed for 2200 calories per person per day. I didn't buy organic because it's more expensive. This wasn't Whole Foods or some bougie store. I didn't buy ANY beverages.

It was $170 with my loyalty card.

Six meals at McDonald's is... Just about $35. Chipotle? $110, maybe less. Chick-fil-A? Under $50. And none of them need to be cooked or taste like wet cardboard.

Re: McDonald's is losing its low-income customers

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Post by walthamstow »

somenameforme wrote: post #274
FearNotDaniel wrote: post #160

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Dude you’re not even trying, why buy muffins and eggs when you could grow wheat, grind flour, raise chickens and get eggs for free, slaughter your own pigs and cure the bacon yourself… because labour costs nothing and convenience has no value amirite?

I find it bemusing that so people are simultaneously extremely agitated by high prices but also completely disinterested in doing anything except paying them. With this mindset it's not particularly hard to guess which direction they'll trend in over time, even if the world wasn't going nutters. I mean these things are not difficult to make. They even freeze extremely well, and then you toss them in the microwave for…

I don't know where you get the assumption that people who eat McDonalds can't or don't also cook their own fresh food from scratch.

Re: McDonald's is losing its low-income customers

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Post by [deleted] »

jaybrendansmith wrote: post #235
GOD_Over_Djinn wrote: post #205

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Absolutely. I feel bad for young people growing up in this broken world. They will never even know what was taken from them. I realize that I’m probably going to get dogpiled for saying it, but I think that the response to COVID (ie lockdowns) did far more damage than the disease itself.

I don't understand why people still blame the lockdowns. When the lockdowns started, it was unknown how dangerous Covid actually was. It could have killed 20%, or reduced lifespan by 30%, or something. Nobody knew. It takes 20/20 hindsight to blame lockdowns for what was a generational catastrophe. It's like blaming shelter in place requirements instead of the bombing of the reich.

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Post by hyperpower »

bastawhiz wrote: post #292
lotsofpulp wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is unusual to see young people make the choices to not turn into patients. It costs very little to eat mostly lentils/legumes/nuts/yogurt/vegetables, and drink mostly water without carbs dissolved in it, but no business is going to survive selling those things.

I went to the grocery store and bought six meals worth of whole foods for two people two weeks ago. Rice, veggies, two fish meals, two meals based on eggs (I already had the eggs), one meal based on chicken. Thirty grams of protein for each meal. I had staples in my pantry already. I aimed for 2200 calories per person per day. I didn't buy organic because it's more expensive. This wasn't Whole Foods or some bougie st…

$35 for 6 meals for two people at McDonalds? What?

Where I live, one meal at McDonalds is about $12. So 6 * 2 * 12 = $144. Not that much of a difference.

Also, if you aimed for 2200 calories per person per day with that $170, then it isn't really fair comparing to a single McDonald's meal, is it? It sounds like buying whole foods is cheaper.

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stego-tech wrote: post #287
prewett wrote: post #123

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Or you could not jump to completely inaccurate conclusions about someone’s viewpoints, movement participation, and policy positions based solely on one comment on a single post. You could ask questions for clarity, or challenge specific assertions, instead of leaping directly to bad faith arguments (“why don’t YOU take a pay cut?” maybe because I’m not a CEO with a compensation package in the millions of dollars a ye…

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Post by fuzzfactor »

jujube3 wrote: post #53

When you're too poor for smelly clown meat, you know things are bad.

It could be worse if millions of low-income customers were already as poor as ever in living memory, for quite a number of years and still enjoying McDonalds as regularly as expected.

As recently as a year ago and now the only difference is in the decreased value of the dollar :\

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Post by mac-attack »

ProllyInfamous wrote: post #280

If you're ever in GA/TN/NC, check out Cook Out and Pal's fast food establishments. They cost just a little more than national chains , for a much more satisfying meal (still fast food tho). Things I miss most about Austin (2nd-gen that left, a decade ago): H-E-B Grocery and P'Terry Hamburgers .

in response to an article about high costs, I'm not sure suggesting a more expensive option serves a purpose...

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Post by diogenescynic »

McDonalds food is disgusting and overpriced compared to competition. A Happy Meal is ~$8 and the food is awful. I can go to Five Guys and get the classic combo for ~$13 and then I just have them cut the burger in half and I feed two kids. It ends up being about the same price for MORE food of a higher quality that is made to order. McDonalds locations are also really dirty inside. Kids aren't interested in the playgrounds as much and most McDonalds don't have them. AND McDonalds changed their design and look hideous now. I think they've done this to themselves. Make food with real ingredients, make it to order, and bring back the playgrounds and birthday parties for kids.
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