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Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

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Post by 9cb14c1ec0 »

BadBadJellyBean wrote: post #55
shoddydoordesk wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are high speed police chases (100mph+) in Los Angeles — no exaggeration — on an almost daily basis. Air support is the primary defense tool for law enforcement. It's so bad that the local TV stations have their own choppers and a dedicated on-screen UI tailored for the chases with GPS-based tracking and speed. If you're lucky you can catch one of the many YouTube live streams. Here's one from....two days ago: h…

Then why do you have so many car chases? That seems like an odd problem. There must be a reason.

There is this perception that if you drive fast and recklessly enough the police will quickly stop following you. It's a get-out-of-jail-free card in popular perception.

Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

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Post by twelvedogs »

BadBadJellyBean wrote: post #55
shoddydoordesk wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are high speed police chases (100mph+) in Los Angeles — no exaggeration — on an almost daily basis. Air support is the primary defense tool for law enforcement. It's so bad that the local TV stations have their own choppers and a dedicated on-screen UI tailored for the chases with GPS-based tracking and speed. If you're lucky you can catch one of the many YouTube live streams. Here's one from....two days ago: h…

Then why do you have so many car chases? That seems like an odd problem. There must be a reason.

police will chase in the US for really any reason, kinda dumb when they have your plates they can just mail you a fine

john oliver did a whole thing on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8ygQ2wEwJw

Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

#103

Post by samdoesnothing »

dylan604 wrote: post #79
BadBadJellyBean wrote: post #69

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Possible but it seems like the chases are not even a US problem but more a "certain places" problem. I genuinely wonder what the cause of this behavior is.

> I genuinely wonder what the cause of this behavior is. Seriously? It's from people not wanting to be arrested and go to jail. If they get away, perfect. If they don't, well, they were going to jail anyways. Now they have a cool story to tell while in jail. These are not people getting pulled over because they rolled a stop sign. These are people doing dirt, know it, and are willing to try something to avoid getting…

I think they're asking why there's such a large population of people willing to commit crimes and then get into high speed chases.

Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

#104

Post by BoorishBears »

Aurornis wrote: post #45
asdff wrote: post #31

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They get away from time to time from the airship. Two in one week this past august and I don't think they ever caught the suspects. One drove under an overpass and fled on foot, the other entered LAX airspace which requires waiting on clearance from ATC and got away somehow after that. I don't know why they don't just shoot a magnetic dart at the car with a gps tracker on it.

> I don't know why they don't just shoot a magnetic dart at the car with a gps tracker on it. Hitting a car going 100mph with a magnetic dart that and getting it to hit on a metal part, not a window or trim, and specially a steel panel, is not easy at all.

They already have darts for this that use adhesives to stick to any part of the vehicle and shoot out from the pursuing vehicles

Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

#105

Post by twelvedogs »

shoddydoordesk wrote: post #49
stefan_ wrote: post #29

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I mean in most other places people have simply realized that unless there is an immediate risk to life, the only thing high speed police chases do is create that very risk . Nicely contrasts with all the news about the omnipresent license plate scanners - it's just pointless, don't take the risk, arrest them at your leisure.

So your proposal is to just let the criminals run away? And that somehow won't embolden them further? "Once this baby hits 88mph, we're home free!" Air support is used to coordinate with law enforcement up ahead to deploy spikes to end the chase. You are just repeating empty political talking points that simply don't work in the real world.

just like so many things that work in every country but the US apparently

Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

#106

Post by BoorishBears »

asdff wrote: post #71
Aurornis wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't know why they don't just shoot a magnetic dart at the car with a gps tracker on it. Hitting a car going 100mph with a magnetic dart that and getting it to hit on a metal part, not a window or trim, and specially a steel panel, is not easy at all.

OK, one with a big glob of bubblegum on it then.

The actual darts for this don't look that far off tbh: https://www.toledoblade.com/local/police-fire/2016/04/06/GPS...

Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

#107

Post by dylan604 »

samdoesnothing wrote: post #103
dylan604 wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I genuinely wonder what the cause of this behavior is. Seriously? It's from people not wanting to be arrested and go to jail. If they get away, perfect. If they don't, well, they were going to jail anyways. Now they have a cool story to tell while in jail. These are not people getting pulled over because they rolled a stop sign. These are people doing dirt, know it, and are willing to try something to avoid getting…

I think they're asking why there's such a large population of people willing to commit crimes and then get into high speed chases.

The cause of the behavior (as phrased when asked) is not wanting to go to jail. Asking why people are in situations where they are committing crimes that could land them in jail is a totally different question. Typically, poverty. Also common, addiction.

Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

#108

Post by hollerith »

brian-armstrong wrote: post #88
hollerith wrote: post #78

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This got me curious so I went out on the street and held a magnet to the front passenger door of the first 6 parked cars I came across. The magnet stuck to 4 of them. The ones it did not stick to are a Nissan Rogue and a Jeep Sahara 4xe.

Decided to scratch up some peoples' clear coats for a little science experiment?

Could I have damaged the cars even though I saw no signs of damage?

It would be nice if someone else with knowledge would chime in here. If this damages cars, then I want to know, so I can stop doing it in the future.

Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

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Post by bradlys »

hollerith wrote: post #108
brian-armstrong wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Decided to scratch up some peoples' clear coats for a little science experiment?

Could I have damaged the cars even though I saw no signs of damage? It would be nice if someone else with knowledge would chime in here. If this damages cars, then I want to know, so I can stop doing it in the future.

Unless the cars are perfectly washed and clayed, even running a clean finger over a car is likely to introduce scratches. I just wouldn’t ever touch someone’s car.

You can look up people even trying to detail their cars to make them cleaner and end up leaving “love marks.” It doesn’t matter how soft the thing you’re using is. It’s because the car has contaminants on it and by rubbing anything on the car, those contaminants end up scratching everything. It’s like when you’re at the beach and you’re trying to remove sand off your skin. You’re probably not aggressively rubbing it off or using much pressure but it still hurts. It’s the same with cars, it’s just that the rocks aren’t as visible to you. They will leave swirls and scratches though… which become noticeable.

I’ve had people just lean against my car when it wasn’t completely clean and completely ruin the paint requiring an entire 5 stage detail.

Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

#110

Post by fn-mote »

throwaway5465 wrote: post #74
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #6

https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/audit-says-lapds-use... On average, the city spent an average of $46.6 million on the program, the audit disclosed. It also found that there is limited oversight or monitoring of the division, its policies and practices and whether the program is in line with the city's safety needs. [...] The department has 17 helicopters and over 90 employees. [..] The city operates their hel…

$5 per person per year then. Or, the price of a can of coke per person per month. Much of which flows directly back into the local economy through wages spent and maintnance paid.

You know this is ridiculous, which is why you posted with a throwaway.

Obvious excessive spending should not be shrugged off by dividing the expense by the population of the area.

Obvious excessive costs need to be reined in. Tax money needs to be spent on the highest priorities, which this is not.

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