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Re: We remain alive also in a dead internet

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Is it bad that I ended up just using chatgpt to summarize that text? Is it possible that this is to a large degree utterly pointless textual wankery?

> Is it bad that I ended up just using chatgpt to summarize that text?

This is called functional illiteracy.

Re: We remain alive also in a dead internet

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I didn't have Žižek on substack and HN on my bingo card.. As always, there are good bits connected with mediocre glue. The point about automating the unpleasant parts of activity and losing the very point of the exercise (automatic dildo and automatic vagina, but automatic research papers too!) is a good one. But damn Slavoj, please use some headings, sections and the like. Work with your thoughts more as you claim i…

It's barely six pages of text. It doesn't need headings. When is the last time you read a book?

Re: We remain alive also in a dead internet

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I’ve learned that whenever someone uses tons of big words in long paragraphs, especially if they have a credential next to their name, it’s ridiculously easy for them to BS you.

The man is a Continental academic philosopher using jargon that is specific to his field. It is not BS, he is simply discussing topics that are unfamiliar to you. The same could be said of a technical reference manual. Not all ideas fit in a tweet.

Re: We remain alive also in a dead internet

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post #6

I’ve learned that whenever someone uses tons of big words in long paragraphs, especially if they have a credential next to their name, it’s ridiculously easy for them to BS you.

This is a non-response.

Disagree, it's making a valid observation.

If someone is nominally trying to convince you of a point, but they shroud this point within a thicket of postmodern verbiage* that is so dense that most people could never even identify any kind of meaning, you should reasonably begin to question whether imparting any point at all is actually the goal here.

*Zizek would resist being cleanly described as a postmodernist - but when it comes to his communication style, his works are pretty much indistinguishable from Sokal affair-grade bullshit. He's usually just pandering to a slightly different crowd. (Or his own navel.)

Re: We remain alive also in a dead internet

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So I'm already joking with my friends (who tend to be physically distant, so I don't see them often) that we are just LLMs vicariously writing to each other.

I've been talking to these friends for decades now, with digital records. I think someone already trained an LLM on their IM records.

How many people do you suppose have two-way LLM substitutes that occasionally write to each other with articles from the news to discuss?

There's already services that use this kind of thing to pretend dead people are alive.

Now here's the question: are you in some sense living forever? Say you have a number of friends, who have over time been trained into AI, and they live on various servers (it ain't expensive) forever. They're trained as you, so they read the kind of article you would read. They know your life story, they know their history with their friends. They will be interested in the controversial offsides goal in the 2250 world cup final. They are just made of calculations in data centres that go on, forever.

Re: We remain alive also in a dead internet

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So I'm already joking with my friends (who tend to be physically distant, so I don't see them often) that we are just LLMs vicariously writing to each other. I've been talking to these friends for decades now, with digital records. I think someone already trained an LLM on their IM records. How many people do you suppose have two-way LLM substitutes that occasionally write to each other with articles from the news to…

Your finite life makes u special. Might as well be a beanplant otherwise.
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