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The New AI Consciousness Paper

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Re: The New AI Consciousness Paper

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The underlying paper is from AE Studio people (https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.24797), who want to dress up their "AI" product with philosophical language, similar to the manner in which Alex Karp dresses up data base applications with language that originates in German philosophy.

Now I have to remember not to be mean to my Turing machine.

Re: The New AI Consciousness Paper

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I look forward to other papers on spreadsheet consciousness and terminal emulator consciousness.

We'll know AGI has arrived when we finally see papers on Coca Cola Vending Machine Consciousness.

Following up on Anthropic's Project Vend [0] and given the rising popularity of Vending-Bench[1], it's actually quite likely that by the time an AI is deemed to possess consciousness, it will have already been tested in a vending machine.

[0] https://www.anthropic.com/research/project-vend-1

[1] https://andonlabs.com/evals/vending-bench

Re: The New AI Consciousness Paper

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I abstain from making any conclusion about LLM consciousness. But the description in the article is fallacious to me. Excluding LLMs from “something something feedback” but permitting mamba doesn’t make sense. The token predictions ARE fed back for additional processing. It might be a lossy feedback mechanism, instead of pure thought space recurrence, but recurrence is still there.

Especially given that it references the Anthropic paper on LLM introspection - which confirms that LLMs are somewhat capable of reflecting on their own internal states. Including their past internal states, attached to the past tokens and accessed through the attention mechanism. A weak and unreliable capability in today's LLMs, but a capability nonetheless.

https://transformer-circuits.pub/2025/introspection/index.ht...

I guess the earlier papers on the topic underestimated how much introspection the autoregressive transformer architecture permits in practice - and it'll take time for this newer research to set the record straight.

Re: The New AI Consciousness Paper

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Is there a reason why this text uses "-" as em-dashes "—"?

Is there a reason you phrased the question that way, instead of just asking whether it was written by AI?

It's just that I have the feeling that people avoid using the actual em-dash in fear of being accused that the text is ai generated. (Which isnt a valid indicator anyway) Maybe its just my perception that i notice this more since LLMs became popular.

Re: The New AI Consciousness Paper

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Scott Alexander, the prominent blogger and philosopher, has many opinions that I am interested in. After encountering his participation in https://ai-2027.com/ I am not interested in hearing his opinions about AI.

>After encountering his participation in https://ai-2027.com/ I am not interested in hearing his opinions about AI.

I'm not familiar with ai-2027 -- could you elaborate about why it would be distasteful to participate in this?

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