The New AI Consciousness Paper

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Post by rbanffy » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 4:25 PM UTC

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S136466132...

The New AI Consciousness Paper
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Re: The New AI Consciousness Paper

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Post by gizajob » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 4:51 PM UTC

I look forward to other papers on spreadsheet consciousness and terminal emulator consciousness.

Re: The New AI Consciousness Paper

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Post by leumon » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:05 PM UTC

Is there a reason why this text uses "-" as em-dashes "—"?

Re: The New AI Consciousness Paper

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Post by meowface » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:07 PM UTC

leumon wrote: post #3

Is there a reason why this text uses "-" as em-dashes "—"?

Many people have for decades. Seems fine to me.

Re: The New AI Consciousness Paper

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Post by ACCount37 » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:08 PM UTC

gizajob wrote: post #2

I look forward to other papers on spreadsheet consciousness and terminal emulator consciousness.

The notion doesn't strike me as something that's much more ridiculous than consciousness of wet meat.

Re: The New AI Consciousness Paper

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Post by EarlKing » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:08 PM UTC

gizajob wrote: post #2

I look forward to other papers on spreadsheet consciousness and terminal emulator consciousness.

We'll know AGI has arrived when we finally see papers on Coca Cola Vending Machine Consciousness.

Re: The New AI Consciousness Paper

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Post by meowface » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:09 PM UTC

gizajob wrote: post #2

I look forward to other papers on spreadsheet consciousness and terminal emulator consciousness.

I think it's very unlikely any current LLMs are conscious, but these snarky comments are tiresome. I would be surprised if you read a significant amount of the post.

Re: The New AI Consciousness Paper

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Post by drivebyhooting » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:11 PM UTC

I abstain from making any conclusion about LLM consciousness. But the description in the article is fallacious to me.

Excluding LLMs from “something something feedback” but permitting mamba doesn’t make sense. The token predictions ARE fed back for additional processing. It might be a lossy feedback mechanism, instead of pure thought space recurrence, but recurrence is still there.

Re: The New AI Consciousness Paper

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Post by dragonwriter » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:12 PM UTC

leumon wrote: post #3

Is there a reason why this text uses "-" as em-dashes "—"?

Since they are set open, I assume they are actually using them as if they were en-dashes and not em-dashes, which the more common style would be to set closed, but I’m guessing, in either case, the reason is “because you can type it on a normal keyboard without any special modification, Compose-key solution, or other processing, and the author doesn't care much about typography”.

EDIT: Though these the days it could also be an attempt at highly-visible “AI didn't write this” virtue signaling, too.

Re: The New AI Consciousness Paper

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Post by lalaithion » Fri, Nov 21, 2025, 5:12 PM UTC

leumon wrote: post #3

Is there a reason why this text uses "-" as em-dashes "—"?

Yes; because - is on the keyboard and — isn't. (Don't tell me how to type —, I know how, but despite that it is the reason, which is what the parent comment asks about.)