Always impressed by GrapheneOS social media painstakingly dealing with these trolls. For those without time the link they post to a 3rd party comparison of Android based OSes is very enlightening:
France is taking state actions against GrapheneOS?
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Re: France is taking state actions against GrapheneOS?
#62The newspaper article referenced contains insinuation (linking GrapheneOS to the darkweb, criminal gangs etc), and unnamed sources quoting a police investigation. But that sort of thing sells newspapers. There didn't appear to be anything about the French state taking specific action (eg passing a law) against Graphene.
If they consider the country is making laws they can't accept, then the honourable thing is to no longer allow participation within that country.
Why would they want to stop French citizens from using their creation?
Re: France is taking state actions against GrapheneOS?
#63This hostility towards privacy all over the world signals that there is a co-ordinated change happening in the world. Unfortunately we still don't know what it is or what its goals are.
Specifically, we don't know the goals. Generally, we know it's about control and fear of losing power. It's a stolen quote but rings true: Those with power fear one thing above all else; losing said power.
As another aspect we're seeing governments and the system elites craving for more power and control than ever.
I know it's borderline conspiracy theorist but I fear that the COVID-19 lockdowns with the surveillance systems and control gained during them gave the elites worldwide a taste for new levels of power and control.
All in the name of doing it for our own good of course. But ultimately its for more power. What terrors man won't inflict on others for "their own good".
Re: France is taking state actions against GrapheneOS?
#64> > I am preparing an article on the use of your secure personal data phone solution by drug traffickers and other criminals. I think GrapheneOS needs a really good PR expert volunteer, or funding to pay for a non-volunteer. My non-PR-expert guesses are... If the journalist is in bad faith or flaky, that might need to be handled. But if the journalist is in good faith, this might be an opportunity, to promote Graphen…
No, one should never ever talk to journalists. Nothing good can come from it. Never assume good faith from journalists.
Having helped run a furry convention, there are times you need to talk to members of the media. Otherwise, you have zero input in the narrative.
If you make the response boring or used a canned legalish message, it doesn’t allow them to say you didn’t talk to them.
A better rule is: don’t let anyone untrained talk to journalists.
Re: France is taking state actions against GrapheneOS?
#65> > I am preparing an article on the use of your secure personal data phone solution by drug traffickers and other criminals. I think GrapheneOS needs a really good PR expert volunteer, or funding to pay for a non-volunteer. My non-PR-expert guesses are... If the journalist is in bad faith or flaky, that might need to be handled. But if the journalist is in good faith, this might be an opportunity, to promote Graphen…
No, one should never ever talk to journalists. Nothing good can come from it. Never assume good faith from journalists.
I am personally quite grateful that Edward Snowden talked to journalists.
Re: France is taking state actions against GrapheneOS?
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, one should never ever talk to journalists. Nothing good can come from it. Never assume good faith from journalists.
I am personally quite grateful that Edward Snowden talked to journalists.
It would have been better to leak directly to the government. If it he wanted the public to see it he could have leaked it directly to the public. It's the 21st century.
Re: France is taking state actions against GrapheneOS?
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, one should never ever talk to journalists. Nothing good can come from it. Never assume good faith from journalists.
Having helped run a furry convention, there are times you need to talk to members of the media. Otherwise, you have zero input in the narrative. If you make the response boring or used a canned legalish message, it doesn’t allow them to say you didn’t talk to them. A better rule is: don’t let anyone untrained talk to journalists.
The narrative already gets decided ahead of time and often there is nothing you can do to change it. In my opinion it's better to accelerate the distrust of journalists.
Re: France is taking state actions against GrapheneOS?
#68What is wrong with that guy in the comments shouting? Christ on a stick, this is the worst crash out I've seen over something like this
I don't know, but GrapheneOS posts tend to get the most bizarre attacks on social media. It's really strange - outright unhinged attacks.
It's because GrapheneOS is very black and white and reactive in their communication. 4chan found them ages ago and there's a daily GrapheneOS Thread on /g/.
Re: France is taking state actions against GrapheneOS?
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Having helped run a furry convention, there are times you need to talk to members of the media. Otherwise, you have zero input in the narrative. If you make the response boring or used a canned legalish message, it doesn’t allow them to say you didn’t talk to them. A better rule is: don’t let anyone untrained talk to journalists.
The narrative already gets decided ahead of time and often there is nothing you can do to change it. In my opinion it's better to accelerate the distrust of journalists.
The general idea of the narrative might be set, but many times I see a company’s response in the story.
You usually have some influence. Enough people are smart enough to read between the lines to make it worth trying.
Perfect example: I had to fire someone from staff rather promptly. The reasons were serious even that not responding to questions in timely manner would have been a fatal error for the convention.
Unfortunately, there are times you can’t opt out of the game because opting out is a response. Silence will be misconstrued as support.
Re: France is taking state actions against GrapheneOS?
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am personally quite grateful that Edward Snowden talked to journalists.
It would have been better to leak directly to the government. If it he wanted the public to see it he could have leaked it directly to the public. It's the 21st century.
You're trolling right?