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Why should the scale of their recent launches be a given? Who is requiring this release schedule?
the market
If it's a strategic decision, then its impacts should be weighed in full. Not just the positives.
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#502Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe the team should push hard before releasing the product instead of after to make it work.
But then we'd complain about Google being a slow moving dinosaur. "Move fast and break things" cuts both ways ! (ex-Google tech lead, who took down the Google.com homepage... twice!)
We are talking here about the most basic things- nothing AI related. Basic billing. The fact that it is not working says a lot about the future of the product and company culture in general (obviously they are not product-oriented)
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#503I am extremely impressed by google this week.
I dont want to be annoying, its just a small piece of feedback, but srsly why is it so hard for google to have a simple onboarding experience for paying customers?
In the past I spoke about how my whole startup got taken offline for days because I "upgraded" to paying, and that was a decade ago. I mean it cant be hard, other companies dont have these issues!
Im sure it will be fixed in time, its just a bit bizarre. Maybe its just not enough time spent on updating legacy systems between departments or something.
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#504Something I find weird about AI image generation models is that even though they no longer produce weird "artifacts" that give away that the fact that it was AI generated, you can still recognize that it's AI due to stylistic choices. Not all examples they gave were like this. The example they gave of the word "Typography" would have fooled me as human-made. The infographics stood out though. I would have immediately…
I don't think it's solely an data issue. Flux models for example are quite stylized, very notable with photorealism. But I think it was an deliberate choice to to have outputs that are absent of likeness and distinct style. I think it's an side effect that it washes away fine details and creates outputs feel artificial. The problem is that closed models can't be fixed easily, while models like flux or even older architectures can add back details and style with fine tuning and LoRas.
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#505SynthID seems interesting but in classic Google fashion, I haven't a clue on how to use it and the only button that exists is join a waitlist. Apparently it's been out since 2023? Also, does SynthID work only within gemini ecosystem? If so, is this the beginning of a slew of these products with no one standard way? i.e "Have you run that image through tool1, tool2, tool3, and tool4 before deciding this image is legit…
Do you have a source on people being able to remove SynthID watermarks?
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#506Google has been stomping around like Godzilla this week, and this is the first time I decided to link my card to their AI studio. I had seen people saying that they gave up and went to another platform because it was "impossible to pay". I thought this was strange, but after trying to get a working API key for the past half hour, I see what they mean. Everything is set up, I see a message that says "You're using Paid…
There is an entire business opportunity in just building better user and developer frontends to Google's AI products. It's so incredibly frustrating.
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#507Everyone who worked on this is a traitor to the human race. Why do we need to make it impossible to make a living as an artist? Who thinks an endless tsunami of garbage “content” churned out by machines dropping the bottom out of all artistic disciplines is a good idea?
To try to put a positive spin on it..
It enables smaller teams to put out better quality products
Imagine you're an artist that wants to create a video game but you suck at development. You could leverage AI to get good enough code and have amazing art
On the other side someone who invested their entire skill tree in development can have amazing code and passable art
The more I think about it the more it seems this AI revolution will hurt big companies the most. Most people have no hope of competing with a AAA game studio because they don't have the capital. Maybe this levels the playing field?
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#508Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it's because they're all trained on the same data (everything they could possibly scrape from the open web). The models tend to learn some kind of distribution of what is most likely for a given prompt. It tends to produce things that are very average looking, very "likely", but as a result also predictable and unoriginal. If you want something that looks original, you have to come up with a more original pro…
Do you know of some tools with a parameter that asks it to be "weird" and increase diversity of outputs?
If you want a chance for real creativity, flexibility and you have a decent gpu go local. Check out comfyui, download models and play around. The mainstream services have zero knobs to play around with, local is infinite.
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#5092D animators can still feel safe about their job, I asked it to generate a sprite sheet animation by giving it the final frame of the animation (as a PNG file) and asking in detail what I wanted in the spritesheet, it just gave me mediocre results, I asked for 8 frames and it just repeated a bunch of poses just to reach that number instead of doing what a human would have done with the same request, meaning the in-betweens to make the animation smoother (AKA interpolations)
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#510Alright results are in! I've re-run all my editing based adherence related prompts through Nano Banana Pro. NB Pro managed to successfully pass SHRDLU, the M&M Van Halen test (as verified independently by Simon), and the Scorpio street test - all of which the original NB failed. Model results 1. Nano Banana Pro: 10 / 12 2. Seedream4: 9 / 12 3. Nano Banana: 7 / 12 4. Qwen Image Edit: 6 / 12 https://genai-showdown.spec…
I think Nano Banana Pro should have passed your giraffe test. It's not a great result but it is exactly what you asked for. It's no worse than Seedream's result imo.
I don’t understand at all why Seedream gets a pass there. The neck appears the same length but now it’s at a different angle.