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Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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Post by concinds »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #189
input_sh wrote: post #182

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> Developers will be able to integrate alternative solutions to Apple’s AirDrop and AirPlay services on the iPhone. As a result, iPhone users will be able to choose from different and innovative services to share files with other users and cast media content from their iPhones to TVs. https://digital-markets-act.ec.europa.eu/questions-and-answe...

You realize that doesn’t say what you think it says in your own quote of the citation ? Apple has to allow alternate solutions on the iPhone - not that they have to allow AirDrop interoperability.

That's a different thing, but the EU did force Apple to implement Wi-Fi Aware which is what allows Google to do this.

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Post by NaomiLehman »

keane wrote: post #184

Possibly relevant comment from a few years ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26893693 >AirDrop also shares your full name (seemingly the one associated with your Apple ID, not what you have set for yourself in your contacts), both by displaying it in the sharing interface on the involved devices and by attaching it as an extended attribute to uploaded files. >So if you AirDrop some files to your computer and…

Just a tip - You can put any string as your name for your Apple ID. you can also change it at any time. I have it as Mac Book. It's not checked when making any credit card payment, AFAIK.

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Post by ChadNauseam »

sahaskatta wrote: post #129
hshdhdhj4444 wrote: post #40

Of course, AirDrop is absolutely awful. Is the Android equivalent any better?

Curious, why do you think AirDrop is so bad? As for Android, it works fine, but I’ve probably used that feature only once in the past ten years. I haven't seen others use it either.

AirDrop works very infrequently for me. I will open AirDrop and not see someone who's sitting right next to me, or then I'll send them the file and it'll get stuck on "waiting" and they'll never get the notification, or it'll send some of the files then seem to get stuck partway through.

This is all with modern day iPhones, like iPhone 15 and above, and just using it in what should be the happy path. I'm actually really surprised every time I hear people say it's so good, because I almost always have to end up just imessaging a picture instead and finding that it works much better.

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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Post by lnxg33k1 »

wiseowise wrote: post #165
layer8 wrote: post #146

This is based on Wi-Fi Aware: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Alliance#Wi-Fi_Aware Some background: https://www.ditto.com/blog/cross-platform-p2p-wi-fi-how-the-... On the Apple side, this was prompted by the EU Digital Markets Act: https://digital-markets-act.ec.europa.eu/questions-and-answe...

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Post by bigyabai »

sussmannbaka wrote: post #149
TheGoddessInari wrote: post #142

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There's a difference between "can't see 'special' folders" & "can't access anything but the app-specific storage". iOS loves the latter, while Android lets you organize files mostly normally even if doing highly stupid/discouraging things for power users & some app developers making questionable non-default choices.

While I bet there’s some technicality I’ll get gotcha’d on, iOS apps do the exact same nowadays.

iOS apps didn't, for the majority of the iPhone's lifespan. I explained this "technicality" upthread:

> There was almost a whole decade there where Apple pretended that the feature just didn't need to exist.

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Post by jack_tripper »

amelius wrote: post #163
rescbr wrote: post #128

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I remember reading somewhere Apple had/has to make AirDrop interoperable due to EU's DMA.

How long until Apple disables it outside of the EU?

They won't, they'll just do another Green-Bubble/Blue-Bubble shenanigan to signal when Apple royalty is transferring a file with an unwashed Android peasant via a gimped experience.

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Post by kccqzy »

Gys wrote: post #58
OptionOfT wrote: post #5

The fact that I get excited about this is actually a good representation much vendor lock there is. We used to be able to send files over Bluetooth before the iPhone came out.

> We used to be able to send files over Bluetooth before the iPhone came out. Cross platforms, really? So for example between a Blackberry and a Windows CE phone?

Not just phones, the Mac as well. So it’s not like Apple doesn’t know about this feature of Bluetooth. They just chose not to do it on the iPhone.

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Post by swiftcoder »

Almondsetat wrote: post #97
swiftcoder wrote: post #27

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or images, which WhatsApp insists on recompressing, which tends to really impact the quality

Whatsapp doesn't insist anything. You just send the photos as files

You can indeed! For some reason, I'm having trouble teaching various relatives how to do that

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Post by thewebguyd »

lnxg33k1 wrote: post #204
wiseowise wrote: post #165

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Apple will never leave the EU market, that would be a stupid decision. EU is barely smaller than the US market if looking at GDP per capita, it's only a difference of ~$16,000. If looking at population, EU is larger than the US.

Hopefully they keep cracking open the walls of Apple's garden and Apple stops region locking the changes to just those markets.

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