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Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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The difference is that iOS still doesn't show you the files on your device. It only shows you files in a small area.

I love Android but Android does that too. Apps have their internal storage area which you can't access unfortunately (not without root anyway). Nor system files.

There's a difference between "can't see 'special' folders" & "can't access anything but the app-specific storage". iOS loves the latter, while Android lets you organize files mostly normally even if doing highly stupid/discouraging things for power users & some app developers making questionable non-default choices.

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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To continue the thread, my favorite is https://drop.lol

I’m using FilePizza when I need it, saw it on HN recently. All this AI magic allegedly taking our jobs, but we still can’t transfer files from one device to another, or print a document reliably. https://file.pizza/

> we still can’t transfer files from one device to another

Nor send text message with images.

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Certainly wasn’t ahead with the stock file manager that came with my last Android phone.

What about after you spent the two seconds to install a different file manager?

Ghost Commander was better but I think I still prefer the iOS Files app.

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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Why is this part of the OS?

Because it can't be implemented without low level hardware access. But also, it seems like it's a part of GMS, not of the OS itself.

Low level hardware access for opening a file and a network port? Those are some of the first lessons in any programming tutorial. If they aren't available, what is the OS even doing?

Also, for all intents and purposes, GMS is part of the Android OS, but Google had to branch it off, to keep it closed source.

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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This is based on Wi-Fi Aware: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Alliance#Wi-Fi_Aware

Some background: https://www.ditto.com/blog/cross-platform-p2p-wi-fi-how-the-...

On the Apple side, this was prompted by the EU Digital Markets Act: https://digital-markets-act.ec.europa.eu/questions-and-answe...

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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The fact that I get excited about this is actually a good representation much vendor lock there is. We used to be able to send files over Bluetooth before the iPhone came out.

> We used to be able to send files over Bluetooth before the iPhone came out. Cross platforms, really? So for example between a Blackberry and a Windows CE phone?

When I was in high school we chatted exchanging notes/txt files between Nokias, LGs, Samsungs and Sony Ericsson feature phones and Windows Mobile (I had an HP one) and Symbian (two friends who had a N95) smartphones.

This was just as broadband was getting popular, so those who had it usually downloaded MP3s and then distributed them at school through Bluetooth. I remember one friend using her phone as a bridge to copy files from me using Bluetooth and sending to another friend's phone using IR.

This was across all the classroom, this definitely wasn't restricted to the nerdy clique. We found out that chatting through notes exchange worked pretty well and then it spread like wildfire. SMSes were expensive in my country!

This was like 20 years ago. Maybe 2006-2007. Twenty years later we're commemorating that Bluetooth File Exchange over WiFi is now interoperable between the only two major mobile OS as if it were a revolutionary technology. How backwards it is.

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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I’m using FilePizza when I need it, saw it on HN recently. All this AI magic allegedly taking our jobs, but we still can’t transfer files from one device to another, or print a document reliably. https://file.pizza/

> we still can’t transfer files from one device to another Nor send text message with images.

Or react to images sent by those that can.

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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I love Android but Android does that too. Apps have their internal storage area which you can't access unfortunately (not without root anyway). Nor system files.

There's a difference between "can't see 'special' folders" & "can't access anything but the app-specific storage". iOS loves the latter, while Android lets you organize files mostly normally even if doing highly stupid/discouraging things for power users & some app developers making questionable non-default choices.

While I bet there’s some technicality I’ll get gotcha’d on, iOS apps do the exact same nowadays.

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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Because Apple realised that phone users are interested in photos, videos, contacts, documents, appointments etc. not files

... This is a joke... Right?

"Dad, download the PDF and then email it to me."

"The file disappeared. I can't find it."

"Look in the download folder."

"How do I get to that?"

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