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Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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The fact that I get excited about this is actually a good representation much vendor lock there is. We used to be able to send files over Bluetooth before the iPhone came out.

> We used to be able to send files over Bluetooth before the iPhone came out. Cross platforms, really? So for example between a Blackberry and a Windows CE phone?

Yes, even "dumb" phones could share files with computers back then. Apple users have no idea how much harm their masters have done to society.

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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post #4

What would it take to make it work when reception is set to "contacts"?

That would probably require cooperation with Apple.

The contact-only mode is authenticated using an Apple-signed device certificate and a signed record of those contact identifiers (as hashed UUIDs) that have been registered for a particular Apple ID associated with the device.

Someone with a Mac can extract those from the keychain (the people behind OpenDrop have a tool to do this), but otherwise you'd need to register a new apple ID, get Apple to register the contact information, register a device of some sort and then do all the key exchanges.

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

#103

Long overdue, there should really be an open standard for wireless sharing of files. Windows? macOS? Linux? Android? iOS? Switch2? PS5? Doesn't matter, just open the wireless file transfer window and it should just work. Having to install third-party apps for such basic functionality is ridiculous. If we had a functional government every major tech CEO would get called by congress, grilled about this bullshit, and to…

I am with you. How is it that in the past we got major successes like TCP/IP, 802.3, HTTP and WiFi but somehow in the past decade big tech decided that was too much collaboration and it would be better for everyone to stop doing that?

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ever since the iphone apple has been trying to make you believe files aren't a thing.

Because Apple realised that phone users are interested in photos, videos, contacts, documents, appointments etc. not files

One reason I'll never own an apple device, and prefer buying more expensive more open competition. Its just a red line - I own the device by law, if you bend backwards to prevent me from using it via ways that it supports by principle, your product doesn't exist for me.

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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Around 2008 I saw two girls, not too versed in technology, share a mp3 song over bluetooth. At the time I thought that if technology finally arrived at the point where "normal people" could be able to do things that required lots of technical knowledge just a few years ago then we were very close to a future where technology could be a giant enabler of powers to everyone. I am really ashamed by how wrong I was and ho…

In high school (2003-2007) it was super easy for any of my friends and I (varying technical levels) to send arbitrarily large files to each other with AOL Instant Messenger's Direct Connect. Honestly not even sure how a non-technical person would do that nowadays.

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

#107

Am I right to assume that they simply implemented AirDrop without discussing with Apple?

Reading between the lines, it seems like Google is playing a bit of chess here. Reminds me of the Beeper Mini stunt, except this time by a trillion-dollar company they can't just sweep under the rug. > we welcome the opportunity to work with Apple to enable “Contacts Only” mode in the future. > I applaud the effort to open more secure information sharing between platforms and encourage Google and Apple to work togeth…

I think Apple will be ok with this, it clearly shows Android being less capable/compatible than other iPhones, a bit like blue/green bubbles

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

#109

The fact that I get excited about this is actually a good representation much vendor lock there is. We used to be able to send files over Bluetooth before the iPhone came out.

It's really an embarrassment to our society that it took this long. And still only by seemingly by reverse engineering with no cooperation from Apple.

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

#110
post #82

Shoutout to https://localsend.org/ - it can even open a local webserver if needed.

I prefer https://pairdrop.net/ ; nicer interface

To continue the thread, my favorite is https://drop.lol
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