The endgame is obvious: make people train agents and models that will replace them. Executives at MS must think this is subtle and a genius move, but it is obvious and low effort. They don't see that making crappy products in the short term will strengthen their competition, even from small contenders, which might disrupt their core. I doubt MS will out execute others in this race. Let's wait and see :)
Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash
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Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash
#52Look, GPT-3 was pretty magical. DALL-E was amazing. Everything since then has not really pushed too far passed that "impressive tech demo" state. I like using AI to help me with coding. That's... about it.
it's pretty good at highly specific questions about software support, from my experience. I'll say what program I'm using, what I'm trying to do, and what errors I keep hitting.
"Click this, then that, then this other thing and it should work"
"that other thing isn't an option"
"Oh you're 3 versions behind. Instead, it's in location X."
Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash
#53A real "Don't you people have phones?" moment.
Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash
#54I don’t know much about him, but I’m immediately put off by his post with obvious grammar errors. And I’m not even a native speaker!
He grew up in Britain so he's most likely a native speaker. It's a Twitter post, not an English essay that's about to be graded.
He's also a CEO addressing a vital issue for the company. Do you really think “dudee so many haters!!” is a response befitting the position?
Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash
#55It is going to be the next Windows Me, Vista, Windows 8, and while I usually do pro-Windows comments, I also don't want an agentic OS Microsoft style.
I'll take Charms, mouse gestures, and the Start Screen over Copilot any day.
At least those things felt like a sincere attempt to move HCI forward. Perhaps not very well tested to understand how all the parts work together, but at least sincere. MS' Copilot brand is a broken solution in search of a problem.
It's almost like the kind of trap a lot of solo devs get into where they build a thing that is interesting to them but then can't find anyone else interested. But at least the solo devs built something that worked for themselves. I can't imagine anyone at MS eating their own dog food on this stuff.
At a company like MS, that shouldn't happen. They're supposed to have the resources to understand what their customers want. But we've seen this trend for the last 15 years. Companies like MS, Meta, Google, don't want to engage and collaborate with the customer. They want to push ideas down and be celebrated for their design brilliance. They don't even really A/B test this stuff anymore. The inmates are running the asylum.
Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash
#56This is Microsoft's "Do you guys not have phones?" moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqjVdPtB9lU
Considering Diablo Immortal generated a ton of money, I hope you are wrong.
I believe users are stupid enough to stick to Microsoft "agentic OS" anyway.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
> sneaking its way into where it's not wanted This. After a generation of social media sneaking its surveillance, manipulation, and noisy ads into our home, work and mobile lives, it is very obvious that having something "smart" shoved into tools where it wasn't asked for isn't some noble attempt at improving lives. Users are tired of being continually and transparently abused. All Microsoft would have to do to shock…
> All Microsoft would have to do to shock the world and get months of good press is announce they were never going to opt anybody into anything by default any more. At this point that would be considered astonishing. One can dream. I manage M365 where I work, and MS never opting tenants into anything by default again would save me many hours of work on a seemingly weekly basis now. The fact that they can abuse even t…
> The fact that they can abuse even their enterprise customers and still retain them is what blows my mind.
The large org dependency on 365 and microsoft is a serious info-security and national security risk. 0 interest in improving because they know they won't ever see competition
Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
> All Microsoft would have to do to shock the world and get months of good press is announce they were never going to opt anybody into anything by default any more. At this point that would be considered astonishing. One can dream. I manage M365 where I work, and MS never opting tenants into anything by default again would save me many hours of work on a seemingly weekly basis now. The fact that they can abuse even t…
> The fact that they can abuse even their enterprise customers and still retain them is what blows my mind. The large org dependency on 365 and microsoft is a serious info-security and national security risk. 0 interest in improving because they know they won't ever see competition
> they won't ever see competition
Not that Google is any better, but I really want Google to put more effort into Workspace/GSuite and bring it up on par with M365 and all it includes, at least make Microsoft sweat a little bit that one day there might be a possibility for a competing product that can lure enterprises away. Workspace needs better DLP controls, and more of the enterprise-y things that MS wins at, and a bundled MDM that can manage all OSes, and better identity.
Even if the behemoths won't switch due to re-training & switching costs, MS desperately needs a competitor in this space. Barring that, they need to be broken up and forced to sell each bundled product separately and priced appropriately. Otherwise, who can compete with getting MDM, Identity, 2TB personal storage, 2TB sharepoint storage, Teams, DLP, EDR all for $22/user/month.
Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash
#59> The fact that people are unimpressed that we can have a fluent conversation with a super smart AI that can generate any image/video is mindblowing to me. It's not that people are unimpressed with AI - they're just tired of constantly being bombarded with it, and it sneaking its way into where it's not wanted. "Generate any image you want!" "Analyse this thing with AI!" gets pretty tiring. If I want AI I'll actively…
I would be impressed if AI was actually 'super smart' but what we have now is not.
Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash
#60Windows has just become too bloated trying to do to many things. I like CoPilot, but all the “Clippy” style integrations of crap in Windows directly is just poor design. Microsoft also doesn’t have user trust in the way Apple does, so everyone just assumes MSFT is going bad things with the data.
It's not even a question of trust or loyalty. Microsoft has explicitly told us they're doing bad things with the data.
I don't think Microsoft as a corporation is any longer even aware of customer trust as a concept. All we are is a KPI and a credit card to be exploited for anything they feel they can take.
We aren't even people to Microsoft anymore. Just a revenue source to be maximally exploited right now with no concern for future revenue.