This is such an important change for Europe. I've worked with 100+ start-ups as a consultant, and I've talked to EU ones who have been strangled by some of the regulations.
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#92> users would be able to control others from central browser controls that apply to websites broadly. Great to see this finally. It’s obviously the way it should have been implemented from the beginning. We still see this technically myopic approach with things like age verification; it’s insane to ask websites to collect Gov ID to age verify kids (or prove adulthood for porn), rather than having an OS feature that c…
I'm dubious of the privacy-preserving approaches and would rather we just quit with digital age verification. I'm specifically worried about unification of data sources identifying users.
The challenges presented to sites, and verifiers if the scheme uses those, would have to be non-identifiable in the sense that they can't tell that 2 of them came from the same key. Otherwise there's a risk users get unmasked, either by a single leak from a site that requires age verification and a real name (e.g. an online wine merchant) or by unifying data sources (timing attacks, or identifying users by the set of age-restricted sites they use).
Perhaps I just don't understand the underlying crypto. That wouldn't be super surprising, I'm far from an expert in understanding crypto implementations.
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#93Is EU suffering from FOMO?
As an EU citizen, this is shameful and even kind of pathetic to read.
Will we start outsourcing all our IT needs to USA again?
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
There has been a change in the community here over the last decade, we've lost a lot of the hacker spirit and have a larger proportion of "chancers", people who are only in tech to "get rich quick". The legacy of ZIRP combined with The Social Network marketing.
Hackers should know the government is never on your side.
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Hackers should know the government is never on your side Never is naive. Hackers should understand governments are complex, dynamic and occasionally chaotic systems. Those systems can be influenced and sometimes controlled by various means. And those levers are generally available to anyone with a modicum of intelligence and motivation.
In addition, hackers should know government is inevitable. Even in anarchy, governments spontaneously begin to form.
If I am not mistaken, the anarchist school of thought is okay with governance and even governments, but not with the concept of the state - an entity that exists to enforce governance with violence. For example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy,_State,_and_Utopia
I’m not 100% sure though.
edit - a (vs. the) school of thought is more accurate.
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#96Cowards.
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#97> users would be able to control others from central browser controls that apply to websites broadly. Great to see this finally. It’s obviously the way it should have been implemented from the beginning. We still see this technically myopic approach with things like age verification; it’s insane to ask websites to collect Gov ID to age verify kids (or prove adulthood for porn), rather than having an OS feature that c…
> (Parents should opt their kids phones into “kid mode” and this would block age-sensitive content. The law just needs to mandate that this mode is respected by sites/apps.) Good kid mode[0]. [0] https://www.lego.com/en-gb/product/retro-telephone-31174
Adding a kids mode to *all* sites seems like a huge investment to most of the tech industry. I predict most would just NGINX-block users with the kid header.
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#98Incredible to see the 180 both from EU and also from the HN sentiment. HN was cheering on as EU went after Big Tech companies, especially Meta. Meta is no perfect company, but the amount of 'please stick it to them' was strong (I reckon that is still a bridge too far for a lot of folks here). Even extreme proponents of big tech villanery in the US (Lina Khan's FTC) is also facing losses (They just lost their monument…
There has been a change in the community here over the last decade, we've lost a lot of the hacker spirit and have a larger proportion of "chancers", people who are only in tech to "get rich quick". The legacy of ZIRP combined with The Social Network marketing.
I don't know if it's a changing of the audience or a change in how people behave generally, but this place has been insufferable lately whenever anything remotely related to Donald Trump's administration comes up.
One of the things that made this place special relative to other online communities is the ethos to interrogate through a lens of curiosity. Now, there's a lot of vitriol that's indistinguishable from any other comment section.
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#99Poor Europe - lobbyists make sure that Europe stays weak. That statement includes Ursula by the way.
Lobbyists make sure that ~~Europe~~ the world stays weak.
They need more strict financial regulation than politicians do!
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#100Good, GDPR is useless for the consumer as 99% of the people click "Accept everything". It's only a few of us who care about this kind of thing and we shouldn't have policy made for the 1%.
I hope the changes they implement will actually benefit small startups instead of relaxing regulations for large data hoarders.