How do the pros get someone to leave a cult?

forgive me if the rise of autocracy and death of civil liberties in my country occupies my thoughts nowadays.

I don't really try with family Fidesz members (Hungarian MAGA). I know why my relative believes what he does and I can't change that. I'm there for him as a friend, will share my conflicting views carefully but avoid getting dragged into a full on argument with emotions.

I'm not seeing page refreshes on chrome. It's just a lot of fixed sized ad boxes.

I would be curious how these conversations with maga families would go if one truly adopted the methodology of the men mentioned in the article.

I liked they philosophy of basically engaging in deep, true good faith understanding of the person's view and group, as well as for the deprogrammer, leaving as much of your personal beliefs at the door, and accepting that you can't really know truth, that truth is more a feeling.

For the MAGA folks, there are many things about their ideology that are easy to agree with in isolation, and easy to understand if you comprehend their misunderstanding of reality. Suspicion of government? Makes sense! Desire for greater affordability? Of course! Nationalism, anti-globalism? Once you strip away the antisemitic tropes of anti globalism and the racist tropes of nationalism, it's perfectly understandable to ask why billions of your tax dollars are being spent in other countries on things that don't affect you in the slightest.

What I wonder moreso though is the ability of the somewhat neutered American liberal to check their own beliefs at the door. American liberalism seems hyper focused on aesthetics and strongly opposed to practical leftism, or really anything that challenges neoliberal dogma around Statism or Capitalism. I see American liberals shoot themselves in the foot with this all the time, and I fear they don't have the strength to make it through the first five seconds of the weird bits of a Trump supporter's beliefs without immediately fighting on aesthetic grounds.

I'm by no means an expert in this and in fact I hunger for these conversations so I can learn more about how to bridge the gap, so I can dig to the material conditions issues underlying the vast majority of most Trump supporter's concerns. The whole "drain the swamp thing," I mean, was it wrong? The entire government seems to have been cozied up with Israel at best and Epstein at worst! So how do you get to talking about that with them to where you get them to understand that their favorite republican politicians fall right into that pool, without first acknowledging the reality that the same is true for politicians "on your side?" At least to some extent. I fear "vote blue no matter who" ideology has short circuited the ability of American liberals to have genuine conversations with oppositional points of view.

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