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Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by pstuart »

charliebwrites wrote: post #461
throwaway13337 wrote: post #439

I gave it a fair shot. It is a vs code fork. There were some UI glitches. Some usability was better. Cursor has some real annoying usability issues - like their previous/next code change never going away and no way to disable it. Design of this one looks more polished and less muddy. I was working on a project and just continued with it. It was easy because they import setting from cursor. Feels like the browser wars…

> It is a vs code fork Google may have won the browser wars with Chrome, but Microsoft seems to be winning the IDE wars with VSCode

Developers, developers, developers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhh_GeBPOhs

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by usrnm »

lokimedes wrote: post #577
thanhhaimai wrote: post #499

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VSCode is based on Chromium. https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/HEAD/docs/v...

Which is based on Apple Webkit? The winner is always the last marketable brand.

Both are based on khtml. We could be living in a very different world if all that effort stayed inside the KDE ecosystem

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by scotty79 »

verdverm wrote: post #470
vovavili wrote: post #465

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't bet on an Electron app winning anything long-term in the dev-oriented space.

why? I don't have a problem with it, building extensions for VS Code is pretty easy Alternatives have a lot of features to implement to reach parity

Ease of writing and testing extensions is actually the cause why Electron won IDE wars.

Microsoft made a great decision to jump on the trend and just pour money to lap Atom and such in optimization and polish.

Especially when you compare it to Microsoft effort for desktop. They acumulated several more or less component libraries over they years and I still prefer WinForms.

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by panarky »

throwaway13337 wrote: post #439

I gave it a fair shot. It is a vs code fork. There were some UI glitches. Some usability was better. Cursor has some real annoying usability issues - like their previous/next code change never going away and no way to disable it. Design of this one looks more polished and less muddy. I was working on a project and just continued with it. It was easy because they import setting from cursor. Feels like the browser wars…

> I can't pay for it and it has 20 minutes of use

You can't provide an API key for a project that has billing enabled?

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by paulddraper »

Miraste wrote: post #623
vovavili wrote: post #465

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I wouldn't bet on an Electron app winning anything long-term in the dev-oriented space.

VS Code is technically an Electron app, but it's not the usual lazy resource hog implementation like Slack or something. A lot of work went into making it fast. I doubt you'll find many non-Electron full IDEs that are faster. Look at Visual Studio, that's using a nice native framework and it runs at the speed of fossilized molasses.

Exactly.

JetBrains, Visual Studio, Eclipse, Netbeans…

VS Code does well with performance. Maybe one of the new ones usurps, but I wouldn’t put my money on it.

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by btown »

vovavili wrote: post #465
charliebwrites wrote: post #461

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is a vs code fork Google may have won the browser wars with Chrome, but Microsoft seems to be winning the IDE wars with VSCode

I wouldn't bet on an Electron app winning anything long-term in the dev-oriented space.

I strongly disagree.

Firstly, the barrier to entry lower for people to take web experience and create extensions, furthering the ecosystem moat for Electron-based IDEs.

Even more importantly, though, the more we move towards "I'm supervising a fleet of 50+ concurrent AI agents developing code on separate branches" the more the notion of the IDE starts to look like something you want to be able to launch in an unconfigured cloud-based environment, where I can send a link to my PM who can open exactly what I'm seeing in a web browser to unblock that PR on the unanswered spec question.

Sure, there's a world where everyone in every company uses Zed or similar, all the way up to the C-suite.

But it's far more likely that web technologies become the things that break down bottlenecks to AI-speed innovation, and if that's the case, IDEs built with an eye towards being portable to web environments (including their entire extension ecosystems) become unbeatable.

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

jonplackett wrote: post #629
onion2k wrote: post #581

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So I start using it for my project and after about 20 mins - oh, no. Out of credits. I didn't even get to try a single Gemini 3 prompt. I was out of credits before my first had completed. I guess I've burned through the free tier in some other app but the error message gave me no clues. As far as I can tell there's no link to give Google my money in the app. Maybe they think they have enough. After switching to gpt-o…

I logged into Gemini yesterday for the first time in ages. Made one image and then it said I was out of credits. I complained to it that I had only made one image. It decided to make me one more! Then told me I was out of credits again.

> I complained to it that I had only made one image. It decided to make me one more!

What?! So was it only hallucinating that you were out of credits the first time?

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by embedding-shape »

usrnm wrote: post #632
lokimedes wrote: post #577

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is based on Apple Webkit? The winner is always the last marketable brand.

Both are based on khtml. We could be living in a very different world if all that effort stayed inside the KDE ecosystem

Which came from "the KDE HTML Widget" AKA khtmlw. Wonder if that's the furthest we can go?

> if all that effort stayed inside the KDE ecosystem

Probably nowhere, people rather not do anything that contribute to something that does decisions they disagree with. Forking is beautiful, and I think improves things more than it hurts. Think of all the things we wouldn't have if it wasn't for forking projects :)

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by ihumanable »

salawat wrote: post #123
spuz wrote: post #19

> Your new focus is architecting the solution, not implementing every single step. So congratulations, you have been elevated to a manager of agents. I'm not sure many engineers will welcome this "promotion".

You weren't the target audience. The target audience was manager types tired of being told no by engineers. Always listen to the quiet parts left unspoken/unacknoeledged.

It's the same thing they tried to sell with low/no-code.

The problem is that the engineer turning what you want into code isn't normally the bottleneck. I would say about 50% of my job is helping people specify what they want sufficiently for someone to implement.

Non-technical people are used to a world of squishy definition where you can tell someone to do something and they will fill in the blanks and it all works out fine.

The problem with successful software is that the users are going to do all the weird things. All the things the manager didn't think about when they were dreaming up their happy path. They are going to try to update the startTime to the past, or to next year and then back to next week. They are going to get their account into some weird state and click the button you didn't think they could. And this is just the users that are trying to use the site without trying to intentionally break it.

I think if managers try to LLM up their dreams it'll go about as well as low/no-code. They will probably be able to get a bit further because the LLM will be willing to bolt on feature after feature and bug fix after bug fix until they realize they've just been piling up bandaids.

I am cautiously optimistic that there will be a thriving market for skilled engineers to come in and fix these things.

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by benoau »

lokimedes wrote: post #577
thanhhaimai wrote: post #499

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VSCode is based on Chromium. https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/HEAD/docs/v...

Which is based on Apple Webkit? The winner is always the last marketable brand.

It's "based on WebKit" like English is based on Germanic languages.
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