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Oracle is underwater on its $300B OpenAI deal

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Re: Oracle is underwater on its $300B OpenAI deal

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It’s looking like Google may outdo OpenAI. ChatGPT has brand recognition and adoption, but not the best product anymore.

You can get a $20 OpenAI subscription for some serious usage.

Google has no such thing for Gemini, it's subscriptions are brain-dead, expensive bundled with 2 TB of storage and other shit that I don't want.

Re: Oracle is underwater on its $300B OpenAI deal

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post #22

It’s looking like Google may outdo OpenAI. ChatGPT has brand recognition and adoption, but not the best product anymore.

Google also has $100 billion in profit each year from it's core business to wait out OpenAI.

Google is also conflicted though.

The more they emulate ChatGPT's clean UI, the more they are failing to push ads in people's faces, which is what generates that $100B for them.

Their business model fails if their users don't experience a confusing crap-fest of ads.

Re: Oracle is underwater on its $300B OpenAI deal

#63

It’s looking like Google may outdo OpenAI. ChatGPT has brand recognition and adoption, but not the best product anymore.

> ChatGPT has brand recognition and adoption, but not the best product anymore. Companies with worse products win all the time based on brand and adoption. So it isn't clear to me at all that Google can win.

> Companies with worse products win all the time based on brand and adoption.

Like google.

Re: Oracle is underwater on its $300B OpenAI deal

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post #52

As someone paying some vague attention to market movements, this was predictable. News of a deal and hype was largely responsible for the rise. Now that the sentiment is cooling off, it’s dropping back to a more reasonable level.

So you shorted Oracle and made money?

Knowing a stock is overpriced and knowing when it will correct precisely enough to profit are very different.

Re: Oracle is underwater on its $300B OpenAI deal

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post #62
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google also has $100 billion in profit each year from it's core business to wait out OpenAI.

Google is also conflicted though. The more they emulate ChatGPT's clean UI, the more they are failing to push ads in people's faces, which is what generates that $100B for them. Their business model fails if their users don't experience a confusing crap-fest of ads.

As always, they will keep it clean until they can crank that enshitification dial to 11.
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