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Oracle is underwater on its $300B OpenAI deal

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Re: Oracle is underwater on its $300B OpenAI deal

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Finally, been waiting for this moment since I've learned about Oracle. Would be well-deserved for them. Hope Larry Ellison loses his yacht.

These people are in the class that never fails. Ellison won't lose anything.

One can dream.

Re: Oracle is underwater on its $300B OpenAI deal

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post #25

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And the search engine and crawler actually powering these LLMs

How is that not a conflict of interest by the way, when Google's AI search results prevent the websites it trained on from getting clicks?

Am I the only one that clicks through to the sources cited?

Re: Oracle is underwater on its $300B OpenAI deal

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Time to short major stocks?

Maybe, but not Oracle. Oracle is friends with the regime: Larry Ellison's kid runs TikTok and has promised to use it to push more conservative content. They'll get bailed out.

> Larry Ellison's kid runs TikTok

Also Paramount, which owns CBS News among other things. And they are looking to acquire the parent company of CNN.

Re: Oracle is underwater on its $300B OpenAI deal

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FT uses "underwater" because the deal was $300 Billion and the stock has lost $315 Billion in market cap since the deal. That's a bit of a stretch, but the rest of the article is very good.

FT Alphaville is the (very good) blog-style section of the FT, so this point is meant slightly tongue-in-cheek, as Bryce hints at himself.

Re: Oracle is underwater on its $300B OpenAI deal

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So you’re saying there’s an upside?

Maybe the entire purpose of OpenAI was to suck all the inflation the US government created on the last decade and burn it out in a huge bonfire at the end of its life. Sam Altman has been playing 6-D chess this entire time, and we thought he was just a fraudster.

>fraudster excuse me sweaty, AGI is actually around the corner

Re: Oracle is underwater on its $300B OpenAI deal

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Oracle is the one to look out for if/when the bubble bursts. Most of the big tech will be fine, albeit hurting for a while. For Oracle, this might be existential.

Don't they still sell a database product? As long as they don't do the Venture Capital thing and sell off the most promising business units there should still be something for the company to do after the AI bubble implodes. Certainly there will be a lot of layoffs, and maybe even a chapter 13, but I don't think they'll stop existing.

Oracle Database Enterprise Edition retails at $47,500 per CPU core (there is a 2-for-1 discount on x86) when licensed this way.

There is extreme caution in deploying new Oracle databases, more so than SQL Sever.

Re: Oracle is underwater on its $300B OpenAI deal

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post #52

As someone paying some vague attention to market movements, this was predictable. News of a deal and hype was largely responsible for the rise. Now that the sentiment is cooling off, it’s dropping back to a more reasonable level.

So you shorted Oracle and made money?
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