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Re: GitHub: Git operation failures

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Microsoft is also convinced that its works are a net benefit for humanity, so I would take that with a grain of salt.

I think it would be pretty hard to argue against that point of view, at least thus far. If DOS/Windows hadn't become the dominant OS someone would have, and a whole generation of engineers cut their teeth on their parents' windows PCs.

There are some pretty zany alternative realities in the Multiverses I’ve visited. Xerox Parc never went under and developed computing as a much more accessible commodity. Another, Bell labs invented a whole category of analog computers that’s supplanted our universe’s digital computing era. There’s one where IBM goes directly to super computers in the 80s. While undoubtedly Microsoft did deliver for many of us, I am a hesitant to say that that was the only path. Hell, Steve Jobs existed in the background for a long while there!

Re: GitHub: Git operation failures

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We live in a house of cards. I hope that eventually people in power realize this. However, their incentive structures do not seem to be a forcing function for that eventuality. I have been thinking about this a lot lately. What would be a tweak that might improve this situation?

Using p2p or self hosted, and accepting the temporary tradeoffs of no network effects.

Re: GitHub: Git operation failures

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post #29

FYI in an emergency you can edit files directly on Github without the need to use git. Edit: ugh... if you rely on GH Actions for workflows though actions/checkout@v4 is also currently experiencing the git issues, so no dice if you depend on that.

FYI in an emergency you can `git push` to and `git pull` from any SSH-capable host without the need to use GitHub.

I'm actually getting "ERROR: no healthy upstream" on `git pull`.

They done borked it good.

Re: GitHub: Git operation failures

#174

FYI in an emergency you can edit files directly on Github without the need to use git. Edit: ugh... if you rely on GH Actions for workflows though actions/checkout@v4 is also currently experiencing the git issues, so no dice if you depend on that.

We're not using Github Actions, but CircleCI is also failing git operations on Github (it doesn't recognise our SSH keys).

Re: GitHub: Git operation failures

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I have a serious question, not trying to start a flame war. A. Are these major issues with cloud/SaaS tools becoming more common, or is it just that they get a lot more coverage now? It seems like we see major issues across AWS, GCP, Azure, Github, etc. at least monthly now and I don't remember that being the case in the past. B. If it's becoming more common, what are the reasons? I can think of a few, but I don't kn…

> A. Are these major issues with cloud/SaaS tools becoming more common, or is it just that they get a lot more coverage now? It seems like we see major issues across AWS, GCP, Azure, Github, etc. at least monthly now and I don't remember that being the case in the past. FWIW Microsoft is convinced moving Github to Azure will fix these outages

The same Azure that just had a major outage this month?

Re: GitHub: Git operation failures

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You just lose the "hub" of connecting others and providing a way to collaborate with others with rich discussions.

All of those sound achievable by email, which, coincidently, is also decentralized.

Some of my open source work is done on mailing lists through e-mail

It's more work and slower. I'm convinced half of the reason they keep it that way is because the barrier to entry is higher and it scares contributors away.

Re: GitHub: Git operation failures

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post #44

GitHub is pretty easily the most unreliable service I've used in the past five years. Is GitLab better in this regard? At this point my trust in GitHub is essentially zero - they don't deserve my money any longer.

We've been self hosting GitLab for 5 years and it's the most reliable service in our organization. We haven't had a single outage. We use Gitlab CI and security scanning extensively.

Ditto, self-hosted for over eight years at my last job. SCM server and 2-4 runners depending on what we needed. Very impressive stability and when we had to upgrade their "upgrade path" tooling was a huge help.

Re: GitHub: Git operation failures

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FYI in an emergency you can `git push` to and `git pull` from any SSH-capable host without the need to use GitHub.

I'm actually getting "ERROR: no healthy upstream" on `git pull`. They done borked it good.

If your remote is set to a git@github.com remote, it won't work. They're just pointing out that you could use git to set origin/your remote to a different ssh capable server, and push/pull through that.
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