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Re: Google Antigravity

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I wouldn't bet on an Electron app winning anything long-term in the dev-oriented space.

Electron apps will win because they're just web apps - and web apps won so decisively years ago that they will never go anywhere.

No. Electron apps won, not web apps. There's a huge difference.

Re: Google Antigravity

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I really don't know why I struggle so much with this stuff. I believe these models / agents / whatever write code that is often at least as good as the code I write, and they are super helpful tools, but it just feels like it takes away so much of the joy that is programming to me. I'm not saying it's "right" of me to feel this way, but for me the struggle, and the figuring things out by testing, identifying patterns…

I'm in your boat. I picked this career because I enjoy solving problems and thinking and understanding. I'm interested in how things work inside below the layers. To me, it's like the tech has a purpose of its own, and not just to provide value.

Using agents effectively is this whole other skillset including managing requirements, prioritization and, worse yet, I'm rarely left with any knowledge. I don't nearly get the same joy out of "I finished a task with an agent" like I do with "I had a problem, I delved deep to understand it, learned something new and solved it"

Then again, I bet people making furniture out of wood felt the same about industrial furniture factories. And it can be argued that not every use case needs custom tailored furniture...

Re: Google Antigravity

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I gave it a fair shot. It is a vs code fork. There were some UI glitches. Some usability was better. Cursor has some real annoying usability issues - like their previous/next code change never going away and no way to disable it. Design of this one looks more polished and less muddy. I was working on a project and just continued with it. It was easy because they import setting from cursor. Feels like the browser wars…

> It is a vs code fork Google may have won the browser wars with Chrome, but Microsoft seems to be winning the IDE wars with VSCode

15 years ago, every company had its own "BlahBlah Studio" IDE built on top of Eclipse. Now it's VSCode.

Meanwhile, JetBrains IDEs are still the best, but remain unpopular outside of Android Studio.

Re: Google Antigravity

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post #520

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- don't learn from what you tell them - don't have career growth that you can feel good about having contributed to - don't have a genuine interest in accomplishment or team goals - have no past and no future. When you change companies, they won't recognize you in the hall. - no ownership over results. If they make a mistake, they won't suffer.

- don't learn from what you tell them Whenever I have a model fix something new I ask it to update the markdown implementation guides I have in the docs folder in my projects. I add these files to context as needed. I have one for implementing routes and one for implementing backend tests and so on. They then know how to do stuff in the future in my projects.

> I add these files to context as needed.

Key words are these.

> They then know how to do stuff in the future in my projects.

No. No, they don't. Every new session is a blank slate, and you have to feed those markdown files manually to their context.

Re: Google Antigravity

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See the videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX-OpeNZYI4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKQ9b4UMpGQ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45967787

Wonder why they're unlisted.

This is common for videos embedded in a page that don't make sense out of context (e.g. in the YouTube feed).

Re: Google Antigravity

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post #228

This whole blog post is seemingly about Google, not about the user. "Why We Built Antigravity" etc. "We want Antigravity to be the home base for software development in the era of agents" - cool, why would I as the user care about that?

Great point!

Remember took my a while early in my career from changing my resume away from saying "I want to do this at my next job and make a lot of money" and towards "here is how I can make money and save costs for your company".

Google didn't learn that lesson here. They are describing why us using Antigravity is good for Google, not why us using Antigravity is good for us.

Re: Google Antigravity

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> It is a vs code fork Google may have won the browser wars with Chrome, but Microsoft seems to be winning the IDE wars with VSCode

VSCode is based on Chromium. https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/HEAD/docs/v...

Which is based on Apple Webkit? The winner is always the last marketable brand.

Re: Google Antigravity

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I've seen "agent" and "agentic" so many times in the last few months that the usage of the term is quickly becoming one of my biggest pet peeves. The previous one was "enshittification", and I'm glad that one was a short-lived fad.

Re: Google Antigravity

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I believe our definitions of "winning the IDE wars" are very, very different. For one thing, using "user count" as a metric for this like using "number of lines of code added" in a performance review. And even if that was part of the metric, people who use and don't absolutely fall in love with it, so much so that they become the ones advocating for its use, are only worth a tiny fraction of a "user". neovim won the…

> I don't know what IntelliJ is. It started as a modernized Eclipse competitor (the Java IDE) but they've built a bunch of other IDEs based on it. Idk if it still runs on Java or not, but it had potential last I used it about a decade ago. But running GUI apps on the JVM isn't the best for 1000 reasons, so I hope they've moved off it.

You don't actually use it but somehow you know that "running GUI apps on the JVM isn't the best for 1000 [unspecified] reasons".

- This isn't a scientific approach.

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