A 50% increase over ChatGPT 5.1 on ARC-AGI2 is astonishing. If that's true and representative (a big if), it lends credence to this being the first of the very consistent agentically-inclined models because it's able to follow a deep tree of reasoning to solve problems accurately. I've been building agents for a while and thus far have had to add many many explicit instructions and hardcoded functions to help guide t…
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Re: Gemini 3
#442I'm sure this is a very impressive model, but gemini-3-pro-preview is failing spectacularly at my fairly basic python benchmark. In fact, gemini-2.5-pro gets a lot closer (but is still wrong). For reference: gpt-5.1-thinking passes, gpt-5.1-instant fails, gpt-5-thinking fails, gpt-5-instant fails, sonnet-4.5 passes, opus-4.1 passes (lesser claude models fail). This is a reminder that benchmarks are meaningless – you…
I like to ask "Make a pacman game in a single html page". No model has ever gotten a decent game in one shot. My attempt with Gemini3 was no better than 2.5.
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#443Static Pelican is boring. First attempt: Generate SVG animation of following: 1 - There is High fantasy mage tower with a top window a dome 2 - Green goblin come in front of tower with a torch 3 - Grumpy old mage with beard appear in a tower window in high purple hat 4 - Mage sends fireball that burns goblin and all screen is covered in fire. Camera view must be from behind of goblin back so we basically look at towe…
https://codepen.io/Runway/pen/zxqzPyQ
PS: but yeah thats attempt #20 or something.
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Also Google discontinues everything in short order, so personally I'm waiting until they haven't discontinued this for, say 6 months, before wasting time evaluating it.
It's really impressive how much damage they've done to early adoption by earning themselves this reputation. I've even heard it in mainstream circles that have no idea what HN is, and aren't involved in tech. Probably would have been cheaper to keep Google Reader running - kidding, but this is the first time I remember the gut punch of Google cancelling something I heavily used personally.
They are also bad about strategy. Good example is the number of messaging systems that have had. Instead of making new ones, they should have updated existing one with new backend and UI.
I like the Google Messages sync SMS online with Google Fi, but it is missing features. If they could do it globally, they would have something big.
Re: Gemini 3
#445Re: Gemini 3
#446A 50% increase over ChatGPT 5.1 on ARC-AGI2 is astonishing. If that's true and representative (a big if), it lends credence to this being the first of the very consistent agentically-inclined models because it's able to follow a deep tree of reasoning to solve problems accurately. I've been building agents for a while and thus far have had to add many many explicit instructions and hardcoded functions to help guide t…
I think it's due to improvements in vision basically, the arc agi 2 is very visual
Re: Gemini 3
#447Gemini has been so far behind agentically it's comical. I'll be giving it a shot but it has a herculean task ahead of itself. It has to not only be "good enough" but a "quantum leap forward". That said, OpenAI was in the same place earlier in the year and very quickly became the top agentic platform with GPT-5-Codex. The AI crowd is surprisingly not sticky. Coders quickly move to whatever the best model is. Excited t…
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The requested prompt does not exist or you do not have access. If you believe the request is correct, make sure you have first allowed AI Studio access to your Google Drive, and then ask the owner to share the prompt with you.
I thought this was a joke at first. It actually needs drive access to run someone else's prompt. Wild.
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#449I've been so happy to see Google wake up. Many can point to a long history of killed products and soured opinions but you can't deny theyve been the great balancing force (often for good) in the industry. - Gmail vs Outlook - Drive vs Word - Android vs iOS - Worklife balance and high pay vs the low salary grind of before. Theyve done heaps for the industry. Im glad to see signs of life. Particularly in their P/E whic…
It's good there's competition in the space though.
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To be fair a lot of the impressive Elo scores models get are simply due to the fact that they're faster: many serious competitive coders could get the same or better results given enough time. But seeing these results I'd be surprised if by the end of the decade we don't have something that is to these puzzles what Stockfish is to chess. Effectively ground truth and often coming up with solutions that would be absolu…
I’d love if anyone could provide examples of such AND(“ground truth”, “absolutely ridiculous”) solutions! Even if they took clever humans a long time to create. I’m curious to explore such fun programming code. But I’m also curious to explore what knowledgeable humans consider to be both “ground truth” as well as “absolutely ridiculous” to create within the usual time constraints.
Stockfish is a superhuman chess program. It's routinely used in chess analysis as "ground truth": if Stockfish says you've made a mistake, it's almost certain you did in fact make a mistake[0]. Also, because it's incomparably stronger than even the very best humans, sometimes the moves it suggests are extremely counterintuitive and it would be unrealistic to expect a human to find them in tournament conditions.
Obviously software development in general is way more open-ended, but if we restrict ourselves to puzzles and competitions, which are closed game-like environments, it seems plausible to me that a similar skill level could be achieved with an agent system that's RL'd to death on that task. If you have base models that can get there, even inconsistently so, and an environment where making a lot of attempts is cheap, that's the kind of setup that RL can optimize to the moon and beyond.
I don't predict the future and I'm very skeptical of anybody who claims to do so, correctly predicting the present is already hard enough, I'm just saying that given the progress we've already made I would find plausible that a system like that could be made in a few years. The details of what it would look like are beyond my pay grade.
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[0] With caveats in endgames, closed positions and whatnot, I'm using it as an example.