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Re: Gemini 3

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I was hoping Bash would go away or get replaced at some point. It's starting to look like it's going to be another 20 years of Bash but with AI doodads.

Nushell scratches the itch for me 95% of the time. I haven't yet convinced anybody else to make the switch, but I'm trying. Haven't yet fixed the most problematic bug for my useage, but I'm trying.

What are you doing to help kill bash?

Re: Gemini 3

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Feels like the same consolidation cycle we saw with mobile apps and browsers are playing out here. The winners aren’t necessarily those with the best models, but those who already control the surface where people live their digital lives. Google injects AI Overviews directly into search, X pushes Grok into the feed, Apple wraps "intelligence" into Maps and on-device workflows, and Microsoft is quietly doing the same…

Microsoft hasn't been very quiet about it, at least in my experience. Every time I boot up Windows I get some kind of blurb about an AI feature.

Man, remember the days where we'd lose our minds at our operating systems doing stuff like that?

Re: Gemini 3

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No gemini-3-flash yet, right? Any ETA on that mentioned? 2.5-flash has been amazing in terms of cost/value ratio.

ive found gemini 2.5-flash works better (for.agentic coding) than pro, too

Re: Gemini 3

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post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ironically, OpenAI was conceived as a way to balance Google's dominance in AI.

Pffft. OpenAI was conceived to be Open, too.

It’s a common pattern for upstarts to embrace openness as a way to differentiate and gain a foothold then become progressively less open once they get bigger. Android is a great example.

Re: Gemini 3

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post #87

I've been so happy to see Google wake up. Many can point to a long history of killed products and soured opinions but you can't deny theyve been the great balancing force (often for good) in the industry. - Gmail vs Outlook - Drive vs Word - Android vs iOS - Worklife balance and high pay vs the low salary grind of before. Theyve done heaps for the industry. Im glad to see signs of life. Particularly in their P/E whic…

> Drive vs Word You mean Drive vs OneDrive or, maybe Docs vs Word ?

Workspace vs Office

Re: Gemini 3

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It still failed my image identification test ([a photoshopped picture of a dog with 5 legs]...please count the legs) that so far every other model has failed agonizingly, even failing when I tell them they are failing, and they tend to fight back at me. Gemini 3 however, while still failing, at least recognized the 5th leg, but thought the dog was...well endowed. The 5th leg however is clearly a leg, despite being wh…

Perception seems to be one of the main constraints on LLMs that not much progress has been made on. Perhaps not surprising, given perception is something evolution has worked on since the inception of life itself. Likely much, much more expensive computationally than it receives credit for.

Why should it have to be expensive computationally? How do brains do it with such a low amount of energy? I think catching the brain abilities even of a bug might be very hard, but that does not mean that there isn't a way to do it with little computational power. It requires having the correct structures/models/algorithms or whatever is the precise jargon.

Re: Gemini 3

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post #155

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I agree but if Gemini 3 is as good as people on HN said about the preview, then this is the wrong announcement to sleep on.

No LLM has ever been as good as people said it was. That doesn't mean this one won't be, but it does make it an unlikely bet based on past trends.

There are 8 Google news articles in the top 15 articles on the HN front page right now.

Google being able to skip ahead of every other AI company is wild. They just sat back and watched, then decided it was time to body the competition.

The DOJ really should break up Google [1]. They have too many incumbent advantages that were already abuse of monopoly power.

[1] https://pluralpolicy.com/find-your-legislator/ - call your reps and tell them!

Re: Gemini 3

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I am personally impressed by the continued improvement in ARC-AGI-2, where Gemini 3 got 31.1% (vs ChatGPT 5.1's 17.6%). To me this is the kind of problem that does not lend itself well to LLMs - many of the puzzles test the kind of thing that humans intuit because of millions of years of evolution, but these concepts do not necessarily appear in written form (or when they do, it's not clear how they connect to specif…

What I would do if I was in the position of a large company in this space is to arrange an internal team to create an ARC replica, covering very similar puzzles and use that as part of the training. Ultimately, most benchmarks can be gamed and their real utility is thus short-lived. But I think this is also fair to use any means to beat it.

Humans study for tests. They just tend to forget.

Re: Gemini 3

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post #82

Understanding precisely why Gemini 3 isn't front of the pack on SWE Bench is really what I was hoping to understand here. Especially for a blog post targeted at software developers...

It doesn't matter, the real benchmark is taking the community temperature on the model after a few weeks of usage.
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