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My favorite benchmark is to analyze a very long audio file recording of a management meeting and produce very good notes along with a transcript labeling all the speakers. 2.5 was decently good at generating the summary, but it was terrible at labeling speakers. 3.0 has so far absolutely nailed speaker labeling.

What prompt do you use for that?

I made a simple webpage to grab text from YouTube videos: https://summynews.com Great for this kind of testing? (want to expand to other sources in the long run)

Re: Gemini 3

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I truly do not understand what plan to use so I can use this model for longer than ~2 minutes. Using Anthropic or OpenAI's models are incredibly straightforward -- pay us per month, here's the button you press, great. Where do I go for this for these Google models?

Update VSCode to the latest version and click the small "Chat" button at the top bar. GitHub gives you like $20 for free per month and I think they have a deal with the larger vendors because their pricing is insanely cheap. One week of vibe-coding costs me like $15, only downside to Copilot is that you can't work on multiple projects at the same time because of rate-limiting.

Re: Gemini 3

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I'm sure this is a very impressive model, but gemini-3-pro-preview is failing spectacularly at my fairly basic python benchmark. In fact, gemini-2.5-pro gets a lot closer (but is still wrong). For reference: gpt-5.1-thinking passes, gpt-5.1-instant fails, gpt-5-thinking fails, gpt-5-instant fails, sonnet-4.5 passes, opus-4.1 passes (lesser claude models fail). This is a reminder that benchmarks are meaningless – you…

> This is a reminder that benchmarks are meaningless – you should always curate your own out-of-sample benchmarks. Yeah I have my own set of tests and the results are a bit unsettling in the sense that sometimes older models outperform newer ones. Moreover, they change even if officially the model doesn't change. This is especially true of Gemini 2.5 pro that was performing much better on the same tests several month…

I maintain a set of prompts and scripts for development using Claude Code. They are still all locked to using Sonnet 4 and Opus 4.1, because Sonnet 4.5 is flaming hot garbage. I’ve stopped trusting the benchmarks for anything.

Re: Gemini 3

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I've been so happy to see Google wake up. Many can point to a long history of killed products and soured opinions but you can't deny theyve been the great balancing force (often for good) in the industry. - Gmail vs Outlook - Drive vs Word - Android vs iOS - Worklife balance and high pay vs the low salary grind of before. Theyve done heaps for the industry. Im glad to see signs of life. Particularly in their P/E whic…

They've poisoned the internet with their monopoly on advertising, the air pollution of the online world, which is an transgression that far outweighs any good they might have done. Much of the negative social effects of being online come from the need to drive more screen time, more engagement, more clicks, and more ad impressions firehosed into the faces of users for sweet, sweet, advertiser money. When Google final…

Yes, this is correct, and it happens everywhere. App Store, Play Store, YouTube, Meta, X, Amazon and even Uber - they all play in two-sided markets exploiting both its users and providers at the same time.

Re: Gemini 3

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I wish I could just pay for the model and self-host on local/rented hardware. I'm incredibly suspicious of companies totally trying to capture us with these tools.

Re: Gemini 3

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What is Gemini 3 under the hood? Is it still just a basic LLM based on transformers? Or are there all kinds of other ML technologies bolted on now? I feel like I've lost the plot.

It's a mixture-of-experts model. Basically N smaller model pieces put together, and when inference occurs, only 1 is active at a time. Each model piece would be tuned/good in one area.

Re: Gemini 3

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm primarily reacting to the other threads, like the one that leaked the system card early. And, perhaps unfairly, Twitter as well.

There are approximately 300 comments on the half dozen or so posts on the front page about Gemini at the moment. 2 threads reference AGI, one of them this one.

Perhaps I shouldn't have implied an expectation of lots of explicit mentions of "AGI". It is more the general sentiments being expressed, and the extent to which critical takes seem to be quickly buried.

I'm totally open to being wrong though. Maybe the tech community is just that excited about Gemini 3's release.

Re: Gemini 3

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Just generated a bunch of 3D CAD models using Gemini 3.0 to see how it compares in spatial understanding and it's heaps better than anything currently out there - not only intelligence but also speed. Will run extended benchmarks later, let me know if you want to see actual data.

Just hand sketched what 5 year old would do on the paper - the house, trees, sun. And asked to generate 3d model with tree.js.

Results are amazing! 2.5 and 3 seems way way head.

Re: Gemini 3

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I am personally impressed by the continued improvement in ARC-AGI-2, where Gemini 3 got 31.1% (vs ChatGPT 5.1's 17.6%). To me this is the kind of problem that does not lend itself well to LLMs - many of the puzzles test the kind of thing that humans intuit because of millions of years of evolution, but these concepts do not necessarily appear in written form (or when they do, it's not clear how they connect to specif…

Agreed, it also leads performance on arc-agi-1. Here's the leaderboard where you can toggle between arc-agi-1 and 2: https://arcprize.org/leaderboard
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