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Re: Gemini 3

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I've been so happy to see Google wake up. Many can point to a long history of killed products and soured opinions but you can't deny theyve been the great balancing force (often for good) in the industry. - Gmail vs Outlook - Drive vs Word - Android vs iOS - Worklife balance and high pay vs the low salary grind of before. Theyve done heaps for the industry. Im glad to see signs of life. Particularly in their P/E whic…

They've poisoned the internet with their monopoly on advertising, the air pollution of the online world, which is an transgression that far outweighs any good they might have done. Much of the negative social effects of being online come from the need to drive more screen time, more engagement, more clicks, and more ad impressions firehosed into the faces of users for sweet, sweet, advertiser money. When Google finally defeats ad-blocking, yt-dlp, etc., remember this.

Re: Gemini 3

#152
Well, it just found a bug in one shot that Gemini 2.5 and GPT5 failed to find in relatively long sessions. Claude 4.5 had found it but not one shot.

Very subjective benchmark, but it feels like the new SOTA for hard tasks (at least for the next 5 minutes until someone else releases a new model)

Re: Gemini 3

#153
post #104

Pretty happy the under 200k token pricing is staying in the same ballpark as Gemini 2.5 Pro: Input: $1.25 -> $2.00 (1M tokens) Output: $10.00 -> $12.00 Squeezes a bit more margin out of app layer companies, certainly, but there's a good chance that for tasks that really require a sota model it can be more than justified.

Every recent release has bumped the pricing significantly. If I was building a product and my margins weren’t incredible I’d be concerned. The input price almost doubled with this one.

Re: Gemini 3

#154

"AI Overviews now have 2 billion users every month." "Users"? Or people that get presented with it and ignore it?

They're a bit less bad than they used to be. I'm not exactly happy about what this means to incentives (and rewards) for doing research and writing good content, but sometimes I ask a dumb question out of curiosity and Google overview will give it to me (e.g. "what's in flower food?"). I don't need GPT 5.1 Thinking for that.

Re: Gemini 3

#155

I think I am in this AI fatigue phase. I am past all hype with models, tools and agents and back to problem and solution approach, sometimes code gen with AI , sometimes think and ask for a piece of code. But not offloading to AI and buying all the bs, waiting it to do magic with my codebase.

I agree but if Gemini 3 is as good as people on HN said about the preview, then this is the wrong announcement to sleep on.

Re: Gemini 3

#156

> The Gemini app surpasses 650 million users per month, more than 70% of our Cloud customers use our AI, 13 million developers have built with our generative models, and that is just a snippet of the impact we’re seeing Not to be a negative nelly, but these numbers are definitely inflated due to Google literally pushing their AI into everything they can, much like M$. Can't even search google without getting an AI re…

> Gemini app surpasses 650 million users per month

Unless these numbers are just lies, I'm not sure how this is "pushing their AI into everything they can". Especially on iOS where every user is someone who went to App Store and downloaded it. Admittedly on Android, Gemini is preinstalled these days but it's still a choice that users are making to go there rather than being an existing product they happen to user otherwise.

Now OTOH "AI overviews now have two billion users" can definitely be criticised in the way you suggest.

Re: Gemini 3

#157

It still failed my image identification test ([a photoshopped picture of a dog with 5 legs]...please count the legs) that so far every other model has failed agonizingly, even failing when I tell them they are failing, and they tend to fight back at me. Gemini 3 however, while still failing, at least recognized the 5th leg, but thought the dog was...well endowed. The 5th leg however is clearly a leg, despite being wh…

ah interesting. I wonder if this is a "safety guardrails blindspot" due to the placement.

Re: Gemini 3

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not familiar enough with CAD what type of format is it?

It’s not a format, but in my mind it implies designs that are supposed to be functional as opposed to models that are meant for virtual games. It generated a blender script that makes the model.

Did your prompt instruct it to use blender?

Re: Gemini 3

#159

> The Gemini app surpasses 650 million users per month, more than 70% of our Cloud customers use our AI, 13 million developers have built with our generative models, and that is just a snippet of the impact we’re seeing Not to be a negative nelly, but these numbers are definitely inflated due to Google literally pushing their AI into everything they can, much like M$. Can't even search google without getting an AI re…

It says Gemini App, not AI Overviews, AI Mode, etc

Re: Gemini 3

#160

> The Gemini app surpasses 650 million users per month, more than 70% of our Cloud customers use our AI, 13 million developers have built with our generative models, and that is just a snippet of the impact we’re seeing Not to be a negative nelly, but these numbers are definitely inflated due to Google literally pushing their AI into everything they can, much like M$. Can't even search google without getting an AI re…

Gemini app != Google search. You're implying they're lying?

And you're implying they're being 100% truthful?

Marketing is always somewhere in the middle

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