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A graph explorer of the Epstein emails

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Re: A graph explorer of the Epstein emails

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Anybody else enjoying the fact that maga manufactured this outrage and now it's being turned against them?

If you look at this graph and your prescient thought is "haha take that MAGA" then you are a brainwashed ideologue. This graph gives a window into the layers of rot in our political system. The complexity is perfectly represented by its form but it seems like your graph is just a big arrow that says "orange man bad".

Re: A graph explorer of the Epstein emails

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This is the best rendition I've seen so far. The Bill Clinton entity is interesting. > 2009: Bill Clinton discontinued association with Jeffrey Epstein > 2010: Jeffrey Epstein provided flights on jets to Bill Clinton > 2010-2011: Jeffrey Epstein traveled via private aircraft with Bill Clinton > 2011: Ghislaine Maxwell piloted helicopter for Bill Clinton > 2014: Bill Clinton alleged presence at sex parties > 2015: Bil…

> The Bill Clinton entity is interesting. Not really. After Epstein got convicted in 2008, he set about trying to rehabilitate his image, to be seen as a philanthropist, a patron of science, and (perversely) a supporter of women and girls. He hired reputation management consultants to help carry out the project, with one of the models they used being Mike Milken (of Drexel infamy), who ultimately secured a pardon fro…

> For example, the MIT and Harvard scientists whose labs and research he funded, and who visited his island for science-themed retreats.

I should add that at least one of them, Marvin Minsky, was accused by name by the late Virginia Giuffre.

Re: A graph explorer of the Epstein emails

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Yes almost no one has been held accountable for any of it, "weird"?

What accountability would you suggest?

Eternal shame and public oppobrium. At minimum, elected officials connected with impropriety should step down, and the public should be so disgusted that they have no hope of ever serving in public office again.

Re: A graph explorer of the Epstein emails

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It’s been wild to see people subsume not defending child rapists to their partisan identity. I’m still convinced it’s a minority of loud voices online and on social media.

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You're proving the point here.

You don't need to trust the media or care about his views on immigration to know that the guy got 34 felony convictions (for attempting to cover up mere infidelity with a porn star), that he's lost a lawsuit regarding sexual assault claims, and that sexual assault claims against him go back to the 70s and involving at least 28 women and him walking in on naked teenage pageant contestants.

Then there's the non-sexual stuff. If you want to say it's "shady" being twice impeached, or hanging his own arrest photo next to the oval office, or the huge number of business lawsuits, or the way he's now able to sue himself and win, or that he's now pardoning convicted co-conspirators etc., that's on you: as the quote goes, democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.

The possibility of pee tapes was funny, but did anyone really care if golden shower was a liquid reference or a "24 carat (plated)" like his redecoration of the oval office?

Re: A graph explorer of the Epstein emails

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What about... investigations...

If the evidence is strong enough, sure. But as much as I like a "the elites are pedophiles" witchhunt, given that the Biden administration sat on it, it's probably safe to conclude the evidence isn't great. The Trump administration is trying to get another wack at it, but given their recent history of investigations, it's probably safe to conclude that's purely politically motivated than some cold case that got crack…

The Biden administration sat on many thing, their total passiveness is no indication of anything. After all, they let the Jan 6 coup attempt go by with nothing but a strongly-worded speech that no one listened to. At this point, there is zero doubt remaining that Trump is indeed a pedophile and a rapist, just click on his node in TFA and read all we know about him. If that is not enough to get him actually convicted, then this country is truly and utterly fucked, and there's nothing to do but to wait for it to crumble under the weight of its own stupidity and corruption.

Re: A graph explorer of the Epstein emails

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What if we extended this idea beyond one dataset to all discrete news events and entities: people, organizations, places. Just like here you could get a timeline of key events, a graph of connected entities, links to original documents. Newsrooms might already do this internally idk. This code might work as a foundation. I love that it's RDF.

Someone did one for (a small subset of) UK media. People were furious. https://brokenbottleboy.substack.com/p/mapped-out

Re: A graph explorer of the Epstein emails

#127

Oh Cthulhu, this is like a periscope into a septic tank...

Yes almost no one has been held accountable for any of it, "weird"?

Not really, given that anyone who might hold them accountable is also in the graph somewhere.

It is very funny that the "unaccountability shield" stops at the US border, though, so it's taken out Prince Andrew.

Re: A graph explorer of the Epstein emails

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Yes almost no one has been held accountable for any of it, "weird"?

As "The Rest Is Politics" podcasts points out, the meagre consequences mostly came to Brits: Ghislaine Maxwell, Prince Andrew aka Andrew Mountbatten, and the former UK embassador to the US. Americans..?

Mandelson will probably rise again. After all, he survived the (consequences of) the Iraq war. Note that he got the job without an interview: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cglg63n63wdo

Re: A graph explorer of the Epstein emails

#129

Anybody else enjoying the fact that maga manufactured this outrage and now it's being turned against them?

If you look at this graph and your prescient thought is "haha take that MAGA" then you are a brainwashed ideologue. This graph gives a window into the layers of rot in our political system. The complexity is perfectly represented by its form but it seems like your graph is just a big arrow that says "orange man bad".

He is, and so are a very large number of people associated with him.

That is not an exhaustive list. But people who want things to improve should also shut down their ability to confect scandals or distractions, like the "Obama tan suit" controversy. Once Americans have a reasonable selection of non-insane non-compromised candidates, things may get better. The election of Mamdani is a good start in that direction, because all the other (D) candidates were horribly compromised.

Re: A graph explorer of the Epstein emails

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It’s been wild to see people subsume not defending child rapists to their partisan identity. I’m still convinced it’s a minority of loud voices online and on social media.

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> Russiagate

A significant number of Trump associates actually went to jail for Russia-related business, and I don't think it's been entirely ruled out for himself. Of course, it has not yet been proven either and I doubt it will be in his lifetime.

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