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Re: Grok 4.1

#101
post #6

Does it mean Gemini 3 will be announced soon? I noticed these model announcements often happen at the same time..

There are some "leaks" here and there ("forgotten" strings in AI Studio) and A/B-testing with nano-banana-2/nano-banana-pro so it will definitely come very soon. Maybe today since Logan (Lead product head for AI Studio and Gemini API) tweeted "Gemini" and he always does this on release day: https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1990633642478219706

Re: Grok 4.1

#102

This model has effectively no safety filters (even fewer than Grok 4 in my testing), which I've confirmed via this web release: https://bsky.app/profile/minimaxir.bsky.social/post/3m5u7gib... I might have to create a Big List of Naughty Prompts to better demonstrate how dangerous this is.

Imagine whining on BlueSky about imaginary downvotes you got on another social media platform. This is also a very harmless prompt, we need less "safety" filters, not more.

Re: Grok 4.1

#103
post #66

It is exhausting deciding which model to use on any given day.

Maybe we need an AI that picks which AI for us to use

https://openrouter.ai/openrouter/auto

> Your prompt will be processed by a meta-model and routed to one of dozens of models (see below), optimizing for the best possible output.

Re: Grok 4.1

#104
post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe we need an AI that picks which AI for us to use

https://openrouter.ai/openrouter/auto > Your prompt will be processed by a meta-model and routed to one of dozens of models (see below), optimizing for the best possible output.

How does it determine which model to send it too? There's a lack of details in the url. Maybe they're not even sure? :)

Re: Grok 4.1

#105
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the issues with those cases do not hinge on the free access to information, nor do the correction of those cases hinge on the restriction of this information.

Ah, the “guns kill people” argument that’s only uttered in the country that’s consistently ranked in the top 3 countries with the most gun related deaths. You would have a point if your vision for a self regulating society included easily accessible mental healthcare, a great education system and economic safety nets. But the “guns kill people” crowd generally rather sees the world burn.

> the country that’s consistently ranked in the top 3 countries with the most gun related deaths

I am begging you to learn what “per-capita” means, and to not deceptively include self-inflicted deaths in your public-safety arguments: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-r...

Re: Grok 4.1

#106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Modern open source LLMs are still RLHFed to resist adversarial output, albeit less-so than ChatGPT/Claude. They all (with the exception of DeepSeek) can resist adversarial input better than Grok 4.1.

Is this not easy to take out/deactivate?

Provided you had the GPU compute to do so you could train the model to have less refusals, e.g. https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.01376

Quality of response/model performance may change though

There’s also nous research’s Hermes’ series of models, but those are trained on llama3.3 architecture and considered outdated now

Re: Grok 4.1

#109
post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, the “guns kill people” argument that’s only uttered in the country that’s consistently ranked in the top 3 countries with the most gun related deaths. You would have a point if your vision for a self regulating society included easily accessible mental healthcare, a great education system and economic safety nets. But the “guns kill people” crowd generally rather sees the world burn.

> the country that’s consistently ranked in the top 3 countries with the most gun related deaths I am begging you to learn what “per-capita” means, and to not deceptively include self-inflicted deaths in your public-safety arguments: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-r...

Here you go, from the same page you posted, gun ownership correlated to gun homicides in all developed countries:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-r...

Re: Grok 4.1

#110

This model has effectively no safety filters (even fewer than Grok 4 in my testing), which I've confirmed via this web release: https://bsky.app/profile/minimaxir.bsky.social/post/3m5u7gib... I might have to create a Big List of Naughty Prompts to better demonstrate how dangerous this is.

Has there ever been an AI based 'safety' incident? Other than it writing insecure code (and generally inaccurate info people put too much trust in) and reaffirming mentally unwell people in their destructive actions?
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