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Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#81

It's an agentic OS now. It acts as an agent on behalf of Microsoft and its business partners, and against your interests.

Funny that’s exactly what the “more intelligent Siri” was promised to be too but for “brand” reasons, there was less of a backlash. Either way, we have Silicon Valley agents and mini agents running around our gadgets now.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#83
post #10

I could not get into the article, but the wayback machine can https://web.archive.org/web/20251118002918/https://www.windo... If people do not want this spyware, we all here know what OS they can move to :)

You mean Windows 95, right?

No, MS-DOS 3.3 of course

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#84

It's an agentic OS now. It acts as an agent on behalf of Microsoft and its business partners, and against your interests.

"Either the users control the software or the software controls the users"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=Ag1AKIl_2GM&t=57...

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#85

>For example, if you ask ChatGPT’s Agent to book a travel, it’ll open Chromium on Linux in an Azure container, search the query, visit different websites, navigate each page and book a flight ticket using your saved credentials. An AI Agent tries to mimic a human, and it can perform tasks on your behalf while you sit back and relax. Big tech has repeatedly shown that they are not good stewards of end users' privacy a…

I think in this case, Microsoft has shown they don't respect the user when they force shutdown for system updates. This has happened during my time working retail and the mom and pops are helpless when this happens. I would never trust Microsoft to bake ai agents in..

> shown they don't respect the user when they force shutdown for system updates

Are you familiar with the prior state of things that explicitly motivated this change?

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#86

>For example, if you ask ChatGPT’s Agent to book a travel, it’ll open Chromium on Linux in an Azure container, search the query, visit different websites, navigate each page and book a flight ticket using your saved credentials. An AI Agent tries to mimic a human, and it can perform tasks on your behalf while you sit back and relax. Big tech has repeatedly shown that they are not good stewards of end users' privacy a…

I wouldn't trust a big tech AI agent to act in my own best interest. How do I know I'm getting the best deal and that they're not clipping the ticket? Given so many of these companies are really ad-tech/surveillance businesses, how do I know that they're not communicating information about me to the travel site which might affect the price?

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imo if you just have a regular desktop PC, use Ubuntu/Fedora, not a dedicated 'gaming' distro. Bazzite's good as a stand in for steam os on non Valve handhelds, but Steam and Proton work just fine on a regular boring Linux distro.

Debian / Fedora are riddled with features gamers will never need.

So is windows. The point being that you can have your cake and eat it too with a stable distribution, proper drivers, proton and Steam.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft once pushed an update that started uploading my data to OneDrive. I had no idea until I was kindly informed that my cloud storage was out of space. At this point I would ALWAYS assume that anything I do on a Windows system is not completely private, and the only true way to make a PC secure from Microsoft is to air-gap it. Also, this is completely ridiculous.

You basically have to treat all components of Windows as malware. Your personal threat model needs to include Microsoft as an attacker.

At this point, I would agree. Microsoft Windows is now banned from my network.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#89
post #45

> Instead of letting an agent act directly as you, Windows spins up this extra workspace, gives it limited access (like specific folders such as Documents or Desktop), and keeps its actions isolated and auditable. > Each agent can have its own workspace and access rules, so what one agent can see or do doesn’t automatically apply to others, and you stay in control of what they’re allowed to touch. This actually sound…

Obligatory https://xkcd.com/1200/

Just replace "someone steals my laptop" with "Microsoft installs malware"

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#90
post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's hilariously tone deaf that travel booking and shopping are the two examples of "agentic" AI that keep popping up.

The main reason I shop online is the joy of hitting that Buy button every now and then for something I want. I don’t want some dumb bot doing that for me (and getting the wrong thing 2/3 of the times) The real chore is having to go to the store to get groceries, doing laundry, pairing socks etc … but solving any of that would require more than just bullshit LLM capabilities.

> get groceries

Isn't that what grocery delivery apps are for, if you really don't want to go to the store.

> doing laundry, pairing socks etc … but solving any of that would require more than just bullshit LLM capabilities.

Yes, it's a shame robotics (hardware) is harder than software, but that's not really the fault of AI model developers.

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