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Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#71

>For example, if you ask ChatGPT’s Agent to book a travel, it’ll open Chromium on Linux in an Azure container, search the query, visit different websites, navigate each page and book a flight ticket using your saved credentials. An AI Agent tries to mimic a human, and it can perform tasks on your behalf while you sit back and relax. Big tech has repeatedly shown that they are not good stewards of end users' privacy a…

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Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#74

>For example, if you ask ChatGPT’s Agent to book a travel, it’ll open Chromium on Linux in an Azure container, search the query, visit different websites, navigate each page and book a flight ticket using your saved credentials. An AI Agent tries to mimic a human, and it can perform tasks on your behalf while you sit back and relax. Big tech has repeatedly shown that they are not good stewards of end users' privacy a…

I think it's hilariously tone deaf that travel booking and shopping are the two examples of "agentic" AI that keep popping up.

The main reason I shop online is the joy of hitting that Buy button every now and then for something I want. I don’t want some dumb bot doing that for me (and getting the wrong thing 2/3 of the times)

The real chore is having to go to the store to get groceries, doing laundry, pairing socks etc … but solving any of that would require more than just bullshit LLM capabilities.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#75

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You don't, but oh boy, the experience is worth it. Bazzite[1] has it quirks but it mostly works fine in desktops. [1] https://bazzite.gg/

Imo if you just have a regular desktop PC, use Ubuntu/Fedora, not a dedicated 'gaming' distro. Bazzite's good as a stand in for steam os on non Valve handhelds, but Steam and Proton work just fine on a regular boring Linux distro.

Debian / Fedora are riddled with features gamers will never need.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#76
post #56

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Isn't this opt-in? How does this hurt you?

Because at some point it won't be opt in

Everything about modern Windows is coercive, or ends up being coercive. You can't even shut down your PC without it forcing you to update Windows. It lets you skip for a while, then after some time, the only options are to Update and Reboot or Update and Shutdown. Totally disrespectful of who the actual owner of the computer is. You have to yank the power plug out to shut down your computer safely.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#77
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I don't want this feature. I have LaTeX documents on my computer containing my personal thoughts. Some of them I want to keep to myself. And some of them contain my own ideas that I find embarrassing. I don't want to hand those documents over to Microsoft servers, nor do I want them used for AI training. I want them to know that these deeply personal thoughts are mine.

Microsoft once pushed an update that started uploading my data to OneDrive. I had no idea until I was kindly informed that my cloud storage was out of space. At this point I would ALWAYS assume that anything I do on a Windows system is not completely private, and the only true way to make a PC secure from Microsoft is to air-gap it. Also, this is completely ridiculous.

You basically have to treat all components of Windows as malware. Your personal threat model needs to include Microsoft as an attacker.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#78
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> Instead of letting an agent act directly as you, Windows spins up this extra workspace, gives it limited access (like specific folders such as Documents or Desktop), and keeps its actions isolated and auditable. > Each agent can have its own workspace and access rules, so what one agent can see or do doesn’t automatically apply to others, and you stay in control of what they’re allowed to touch. This actually sound…

Are you kidding? This is pure theft. If I got into your computer and accessed your Documents and Desktop, I'd be in jail but its OK when Microsoft does it.

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Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#79
post #57

Just checked my Windows (i have latest). It has Settings -> AI components tab. It has "There are no AI components currently installed". I will let it stay this way till i need it. I like AI, but only when i control what it does.

> I will let it stay this way till i need it.

I guarantee it will stay that way only until Microsoft decides you need it, and then they will just silently enable it and bury the option to disable it.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

#80
I find the apparent mistrust of MS interesting since the OS already has 100% access to every byte of information on a disk and in memory.

Our use of any operating system involves an implicit assumption the operating system is not actively surveilling every piece of data saved/modified in storage or memory.

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