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Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

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Post by dijit »

verisimi wrote: post #215
crmd wrote: post #204

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it’s a tough infosec situation because the tel aviv-haifa corridor in israel has an enormous amount of computer science R&D going on that gives US companies a competitive advantage. for example, annapurna labs in haifa develops the technology behind AWS’s nitro cards, which run the hypervisor, block storage, and networking in every EC2 server.

Fair enough. I guess it's fine to be spied on to make sure US companies have that competitive advantage you mention. As its all in a good cause, I'll take the Samsung phone!

To be fair, us over in Europe have been uncomfortable for a while due to the US surveillance apparatus having total dominion over the underlying systems that run our countries.

So, its a little bit tone deaf to hear these complaints from Americans honestly.

We’re told that we’re uncompetitive (yet when rising startups happen they’re bought out before being too large)- we’re told that we shouldn’t run on anything except US SaaS and US cloud providers.

I’m not saying that you specifically make these arguments, but the zeitgeist on HN definitely centres on this notion.

So, please forgive me for not taking this as seriously as you’d like me to.

Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

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Post by ebbi »

galagawinkle489 wrote: post #225
ebbi wrote: post #206

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Agree that is a war crime. It is also a war crime to carry out what is known as the Nakba - ethnically cleansing and displacing hundreds and thousands of Palestinians. It is a crime illegally occupy land that does not belong to you. It is a crime to maintain an apartheid state. It is a crime to hold 'prisoners' without any charges It is a crime to rape said prisoners. It is also disgusting to have a society that riot…

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Thanks for exposing your clear bias. Nothing productive will come of this discussion.

Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

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Post by keyringlight »

rs186 wrote: post #67

AppCloud is not only in India. It is on some OEM version of the phone in the US as well. How did I know? My phone had random notifications promoting apps that I had never heard of, and I couldn't find a way to disable them. Eventually I found and removed it via adb. These scumbags.

Any chance you can remember the package name? It's not mentioned in the article or ones it linked to, and I can't quickly find it on my phone. There is the vaguely named "application recommendations" that going by a quick search should be com.samsung.android.mapsagent

Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

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Post by dundarious »

vladgur wrote: post #68
MomsAVoxell wrote: post #58

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> Former CIA director Leon Panetta labeled last week’s deadly pager explosions in Lebanon a form of “terrorism.”

> “I don’t think there’s any question that it’s a form of terrorism,” Panetta said on “CBS News Sunday morning.”

https://thehill.com/policy/international/4893900-leon-panett...

I don't take anything Leon Panetta says as gospel, but the fact that someone like him says this shows how the position is not ludicrous in the way you and other similar replies are painting it.

Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

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Post by kryogen1c »

baklavaEmperor wrote: post #126

What’s striking is how often these ‘small’ surveillance tech stories trace back to the same state-aligned ecosystem. When Israel does it, it’s treated as a complex security issue. When another ‘bad’ country does the same thing, we immediately call it espionage. And almost on cue, the discussion drifts anywhere except the uncomfortable fact that it’s the same ecosystem from the same country showing up again.

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Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

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Post by [deleted] »

ebbi wrote: post #206
galagawinkle489 wrote: post #173

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The war crime is when Hamas and Hezbollah fire rockets indiscriminately into Israel to kill innocent civilians. Any and all means are and will always be justified to prevent that.

Agree that is a war crime. It is also a war crime to carry out what is known as the Nakba - ethnically cleansing and displacing hundreds and thousands of Palestinians. It is a crime illegally occupy land that does not belong to you. It is a crime to maintain an apartheid state. It is a crime to hold 'prisoners' without any charges It is a crime to rape said prisoners. It is also disgusting to have a society that riot…

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Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

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Post by nashashmi »

null_deref wrote: post #227
nashashmi wrote: post #178

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27 out of 190 countries is far from “international consensus” and does not legitimize attacks on the group in sovereign territory. don’t justify the security hack as legitimate. If Israel penetrated a security perimeter of a group that breach becomes a threat to all people everywhere

Hezoballah group itself defies the Lebanese government and the Lebanese sovereignty

Hezbollah is part of the political system in Lebanon

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Post by vladgur »

Qiu_Zhanxuan wrote: post #194
vladgur wrote: post #68

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Which deranged logic are you referring to?

Also America is behind all sufferings in the world?

That’s some amazing interpretation of reality

Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

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Post by YorickPeterse »

kryogen1c wrote: post #236
baklavaEmperor wrote: post #126

What’s striking is how often these ‘small’ surveillance tech stories trace back to the same state-aligned ecosystem. When Israel does it, it’s treated as a complex security issue. When another ‘bad’ country does the same thing, we immediately call it espionage. And almost on cue, the discussion drifts anywhere except the uncomfortable fact that it’s the same ecosystem from the same country showing up again.

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If only Israel wasn't committing a genocide itself, and hadn't treated the Palestinian people like lesser beings for decades, maybe things would be different.
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