Live data from Hacker News

Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

sammobile.com

151–160 of 346 posts

Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

#154

[flagged]

Nothing about this is antisemitic in my book. In fact I would go as far as conflating criticism of Israeli state actions with antisemitism is a sort of antisemitism since it puts both things in the same category equating both with each other (leaving no room for legitimate criticism according to the person equating them).

What is antisemitism is people shouting sieg heil outside my house when they read my name on the door thinking I am Jewish (I am not, though our family fled from German forces during WW2, not all survived).

Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

#155
post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RTFA > The presence of an Israeli-origin technology component on Samsung phones in WANA countries poses additional problems. Several nations in this region legally bar Israeli companies from operating, and in light of the ongoing Israel–Palestine conflict, the preload of an app tied to such a company becomes even more contentious. So yes, the presence of Israeli software is a problem in many countries, and may even b…

Apple's A/M-series chips are designed in Israel. My guess is no one is banning iPhones.

[dead]

Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

#157
post #12

So a Unity owned bloatware company being used by Samsung is now somehow controversial because it was founded in Israel? Am i reading this right?

Uhhhh, not sure about you, but I wouldn't want anything Israeli within 10m of my phone.

Best throw it away then

Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

#158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

[flagged]

> 2. The vast majority of casualties were not mythical "terrorists", they were ordinary pedestrians.

This is simply false, virtually every single spicy pager casualty was part of a terrorist organization.

> 3. Regardless this is still considered a war crime, and is by definition a terrorist act because it was not targeted. When they launched the attack they had no knowledge of where each pager was.

It was highly targeted in reality, spicy pagers were sold exclusively to the terrorist organizations for use on the terrorists communication network. It's arguably one of the most highly targeted attacks in history in terms of enemy to civilian casualty ratios.

Re: Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attracting controversy

#159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From Stuxnet to Pegasus to the 2024 pager attack, Israel has a history of leveraging its tech sector to advance its national security aims through clandestine means (this is not unusual: so does the US, and so does China). If you're a country with not-so-friendly relations with Israel, the company being founded in Israel is absolutely pertinent.

Which _Israeli_ companies were used for Stuxnet or the 2024 pager attack? NSO is not the same as the company from the article since it's explicitly a cyber company.

The more relevant question is, which Israeli companies are currently not involved in covert military operations?

The difficulty in comprehending an answer to this question is precisely why allowing ones military to perform such actions using covert means is so dangerous for a civilian population to support.

War is supposed to be fought in the open in order to protect the civilians.

I suppose when the distinction between soldier and civilian is not so easy to make, the profligate mindset which allows covert, indiscriminate mass murder at scale becomes a norm.

Post reply on HN