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Raccoons are showing early signs of domestication

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Re: Raccoons are showing early signs of domestication

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Foxes too, generally. The average temperament tends to include curiosity, playfulness, and wariness but not moral fear of humans. People keep them as household pets so I'd call that domesticable. An experiment to speed up the process of fox domestication was undertaken. [0] Foxes tend to not be like almost all wolves (and many wolfdogs) which are reserved, not prone to social openness, and hard to read like American…

Fox urine reeks. You don't want to live anywhere near that.

Re: Raccoons are showing early signs of domestication

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If dogs started out as wolves and ended up as English bulldogs, imagine how stupid raccoons will eventually look.

Most cat breeds still look more or less like their wild relatives.

Most dogs, arguably, too. But there are French bulldogs, dachshunds, and pugs.

Among domestic cats, there are Persian cats and Sphinx cats.

Re: Raccoons are showing early signs of domestication

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> 10% of raccoons that expose people or pets have rabies I don't understand the language of this quote. What does it mean for an animal to expose people?

An “exposure” in this instance to rabies would be physical contact - a bite, scratch, or from its saliva on an open wound for instance.

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Re: Raccoons are showing early signs of domestication

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Just remember to remain wary of the cute ones. > Raccoons are a rabies reservoir in the eastern United States, extending from Canada to Florida and as far west as the Appalachian Mountain range. Within these areas, 10% of raccoons that expose people or pets have rabies, making them one of the highest rabies-risks in the United States. https://www.cdc.gov/rabies/php/protecting-public-health/inde...

> 10% of raccoons that expose people or pets have rabies I don't understand the language of this quote. What does it mean for an animal to expose people?

you would think that 100% of racoons that expose people to rabies have rabies.

Re: Raccoons are showing early signs of domestication

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> Oddly, tameness has also long been associated with traits such as a shorter face, a smaller head, floppy ears and white patches on fur—a pattern that Charles Darwin noted in the 1800s. Hmm, so evolutionary pressure of existing around humans makes animals cuter. I wonder why we find these features endearing?

Since humans associate cuteness with large eyes and small body size, nocturnal / twilight animals, like raccoons, sugar gliders, cats, squirrels, etc have a larger chance to be domesticated as pets.

Daytime, larger animals (e.g. sheep, goats, or even rabbits) have a larger chance to be domesticated as food.

Re: Raccoons are showing early signs of domestication

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Removing the scent glands of a skunk is considered about as ethical as declawing a cat. It just isn't really done anymore. Maybe 30 years ago...

I don't really understand this. Isn't it about as surgically invasive as getting a pet spayed? Does the scent gland do anything more than just stinking? For a cat, removing the claws literally removes bones from them. It limits their mobility and hurts like hell. (Not that I want a pet skunk. Just curious as to why it's unethical)

I mean, you're removing part of a living animal for human convenience. If the ethical issue isn't obvious I don't know what to tell you.

The practice has been banned in the UK for almost 20 years, under the exact same laws as ban declawing cats. It's unnecessary mutilation with no medical justification.

Re: Raccoons are showing early signs of domestication

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Just in time to spread a really awful parasite. https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/09/human-cases-of-racco... "severe, frequently fatal, infections of the eyes, organs, and central nervous system. Those who survive are often left with severe neurological outcomes, including blindness, paralysis, loss of coordination, seizures, cognitive impairments, and brain atrophy"

We treat deer for ticks, etc. A decade ago, I think we would have been smart enough to treat wild raccoons for this parasite, but the time of human domestication is over. In another decade, I expect humans will be marking their territories with feces again.

Re: Raccoons are showing early signs of domestication

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> Oddly, tameness has also long been associated with traits such as a shorter face, a smaller head, floppy ears and white patches on fur—a pattern that Charles Darwin noted in the 1800s. Hmm, so evolutionary pressure of existing around humans makes animals cuter. I wonder why we find these features endearing?

I've heard that the same process of domestication towards "cuteness" has been outlined in human evolution too.

Larger head-size relative to the body, larger eyes, smaller jaws and noses, longer limbs, etc.

Interesting parallels across species towards less aggression, greater pro-social behavior, more physical traits that shout "trust me, I'm harmless."

Almost like pro-social, intelligent team co-operation is a huge advantage compared to solo predatory behavior.

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