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Re: New users: Welcome. Please read the site guidelines.

#51

> We're trying to see whether by asking people to be civil we can avoid the kind of nastiness that anonymity breeds by default. Plus liberal use of disabling people's accounts without notifying them let alone asking them to change something.

i've seen pg make polite suggestions to commenters who are out of line. they almost always completely ignore him.

given that he's got other things to do besides just moderate this site, i don't blame him at all for killing the accounts of unruly posters. at that point, the onus is on them to do something to get back in his good graces, or just go somewhere else.

Re: New users: Welcome. Please read the site guidelines.

#53
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Good idea. I should add some kind of welcome page.

There is some available real estate in the navigation header. Maybe a "posting guidelines" link up there is warranted? If it clutters the interface, it could go away once you get 100 karma or so.

I like tying it to karma rather than user date length. That way, long-time users that haven't done anything will still see the guidelines, as a sort of hint.

Re: New users: Welcome. Please read the site guidelines.

#54
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is some available real estate in the navigation header. Maybe a "posting guidelines" link up there is warranted? If it clutters the interface, it could go away once you get 100 karma or so.

I like tying it to karma rather than user date length. That way, long-time users that haven't done anything will still see the guidelines, as a sort of hint.

Why would long-time users that "haven't done anything" need the hint?

Re: New users: Welcome. Please read the site guidelines.

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post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like tying it to karma rather than user date length. That way, long-time users that haven't done anything will still see the guidelines, as a sort of hint.

Why would long-time users that "haven't done anything" need the hint?

One may still benefit greatly from the experience of posting and commenting rather than observing. I was reading hn a while before I got an account, and never really thought about karma, submission titling or type, or comment voting.

I have often wondered why the posting, submission, and voting guidelines haven't been more prominent. I appreciate Paul's active role in this community--I think it account's for much of the civility to have benevolent moderators--but definitely making the principles easier to access would be helpful, too.

Re: New users: Welcome. Please read the site guidelines.

#58
Well I post here once in a blue moon when I see something of interest, and I also comment. My long term goal is to break 100 points on my next submission.

It's a sad thing that it's been years now and we still have to have guidelines that essentially say what everyone was told by their mother when they were a child. I think this will improve some day when either 1. we ban dogs from the net or 2. we start shooting the bad ones :)

As an aside, PG, congrats! I saw recently that you were promoted up a level. It's a wonderful thing, non?

Re: New users: Welcome. Please read the site guidelines.

#59
From all the downmodding of the linked comment, I gather a lot of people are going to disagree, but I actually think the comment may have been the most helpful one in the thread.

Its message was:

    Prioritize, focus on things that are relevant to 
    your success, not on things that only matter after
    you've succeeded, i.e. see the bigger picture.
Perhaps the delivery could have been better.
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