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The government has no plan for America’s 300 billion pennies

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Re: The government has no plan for America’s 300 billion pennies

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This is all a bit hyperbolic. Stopping minting pennies made sense and has precedent. There used to be half penny coins. Also, pennies are still legal tender. Folks can take them to a bank or other venue and cash them in. They’re not “trash.”

I think when the half penny was discontinued it had the same buying power as the dime does now or something like that.

So this is long overdue.

Re: The government has no plan for America’s 300 billion pennies

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We can turn them into suntan lotion!

hahah ok actually I love that. I think however the problem would be the trouble in seperating the zinc from the copper, I think you would likely operate at a loss still but this is just a guess.

It's called Coppertone for a reason

Re: The government has no plan for America’s 300 billion pennies

#43
post #24

This is all a bit hyperbolic. Stopping minting pennies made sense and has precedent. There used to be half penny coins. Also, pennies are still legal tender. Folks can take them to a bank or other venue and cash them in. They’re not “trash.”

> Folks can take them to a bank FWIW my bank refuses to accept unrolled coins, long before this month's retirement of the penny.

One of the reasons why I changed banks. My new bank has a coin counting machine in the lobby, you throw your coins in, it consumes them, and gives you a slip that you take to the teller.

As I understand it, coins are considered a government service. Banks and retailers pay to deal with them. Buying them from the public for face value actually saves them money.

Re: The government has no plan for America’s 300 billion pennies

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> Folks can take them to a bank FWIW my bank refuses to accept unrolled coins, long before this month's retirement of the penny.

Is that legal?

It seems more reasonable than the outright refusal of many businesses to accept cash at all, and plus this transaction isn't even a "debt" to which the penny would be legal tender.

Re: The government has no plan for America’s 300 billion pennies

#45
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Australia's rules for how to round are summed up in four dot points here in a single page of info, with another two short paragraphs about how electronic/credit card and cheque transactions are handled (they are not rounded): https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/rounding-and-eftpos-tr...

When the removal of one and two cent pieces actually happened in Australia (1991), all the details were distributed in a pamphlet of just four pages. That amount of information is probably about all people need, literally just a document with some guidelines!

Re: The government has no plan for America’s 300 billion pennies

#46
post #24

This is all a bit hyperbolic. Stopping minting pennies made sense and has precedent. There used to be half penny coins. Also, pennies are still legal tender. Folks can take them to a bank or other venue and cash them in. They’re not “trash.”

> Folks can take them to a bank FWIW my bank refuses to accept unrolled coins, long before this month's retirement of the penny.

A lot of banks just have one of those coin counting machine things (like Coinstar but not Coinstar).

Coinstar also often has zero commission options like gift cards that are an easy way to cash in extra change without paying fees.

Re: The government has no plan for America’s 300 billion pennies

#47
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> Folks can take them to a bank FWIW my bank refuses to accept unrolled coins, long before this month's retirement of the penny.

Is that legal?

As I understand it, more than X dollars worth of coins is not legal tender. I learned this due to an absurd case in Detroit, where someone stole bags of coins from an armored car, got caught, and claimed their crime was not a felony because it was below the dollar limit for a felony. Of course the judge treated their request with the disdain that it deserved.

Re: The government has no plan for America’s 300 billion pennies

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It's not acceptable to attack fellow community members like this on HN. Critiquing the article is fine, as is flagging it if you think it's unfit for HN. But personal attacks are not OK, no matter who it is or why you think it's justifiable. Please read the guidelines and make an effort to observe them if you want to keep participating here.

Since you're speaking as a moderator I'd like to ask for clarification on the official position:

Was that actually a personal attack, or was it a verifiable claim about the quantity and type of submissions by this user? Is the problem that it was labeled "propaganda", and would it have been ok without that word?

I thought it was useful context to have a look at the submission history. There is a slew of recent [dead] submissions. At what point is it fair to call that out? Or is it about the wording?

Re: The government has no plan for America’s 300 billion pennies

#49
post #24

This is all a bit hyperbolic. Stopping minting pennies made sense and has precedent. There used to be half penny coins. Also, pennies are still legal tender. Folks can take them to a bank or other venue and cash them in. They’re not “trash.”

> Folks can take them to a bank FWIW my bank refuses to accept unrolled coins, long before this month's retirement of the penny.

It's odd how banks have largely stopped operating change counting machines.

In my childhood we'd hoard loose change then make a trip to the local po-dunk bank serving my neighborhood surrounded by corn fields, and even there they'd take our bucket of loose change and dump it into a counting machine for free.

It was a game to try guess the amount we'd get in paper cash...

Now you have to pay for this service at a grocery store using a cumbersome machine operated by Coinstar.

Re: The government has no plan for America’s 300 billion pennies

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> The newer pennies are not really worth the effort as they are mostly zinc. They're still worth $1 per lb., and you have to destroy them, anyway.

It's their mix with copper I beleive that makes them less valuable than their raw value in zinc if thats what your number is based on... because the cost of seperation from the copper is greater than simply sourcing other materials.

I read this as a joke ($1/lb because 100 pennies weighs about a pound - although online sources make it sound like it's closer to 200 pennies for a pound)
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