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Re: The iPad 1

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Post by taligent »

mfincham wrote: post #51

Here's an idea: The moment the device is no longer supported, unlock the bootloader. If you really felt philanthropic, release some docs on the hardware interfaces. This way Linux / *BSD / Haiku / whatever could be ported and extend the usable life of the device. This would foster a thriving second hand market, massively reduce the security risks that users of the older devices are exposed to, help clear old stock, k…

Why ? The device still works on iOS5 and will still run 99% of the apps available today and over the next few years.

Most developers are still going to be targeting iOS4+ for a while to come.

Re: The iPad 1

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Post by andybak »

podperson wrote: post #42
axx wrote: post #3

When the iPad 1 launched in germany, i bought a 64GB model with 3G. I payed more than 800 Euros. And now Apple tells me "it's to old, go and sell it on eBay for 150 bucks". Are you fucking kidding me? I'm a Apple user for ages, i have two Mac Pros, three MacBook Pros (family), one MacBook Air and all iPhones that Apple ever made. I sold every old piece of hardware or replaced it when i needed a faster or newer model.…

I bought a Nexus 7 a little while back and my initial reaction was similar to yours. Now, I'd rather use my old iPad gen 1 than the brand new dual core Nexus 7, which -- among other things -- can seize up so badly when doing something as simple as typing a URL that it misses touch events altogether.

Looks like you're a victim of the same bug as me: http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/mobile/loqbCbK...

I'm sending it back for a replacement but in the short-term a factory reset fixes it.

Re: The iPad 1

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Post by spaghetti »

CrazedGeek wrote: post #21

(warning: tangential) "Knowing Apple, that sounds like a far more plausible explanation than the most popular theory I’ve heard: that Apple just wants to force iPad 1 owners to buy new iPads." I totally believe this is true on the iPad front, but I can't imagine any other reason that iOS 6 would support the iPhone 3GS but not the 3rd generation iPod Touch. They have very nearly the exact same specifications, except o…

I'm wondering about the two-year or similar contracts people signed when they purchased or obtained for free a 3GS? Perhaps there's a corner case when someone got a 3GS + 2 year contract just five months ago. Might be some backlash if the device they planned to use for the next 19 months couldn't be upgraded to the latest iOS. Note this isn't an issue with iPod Touch or iPad due to lack of contracts (except perhaps an iPad data contract? But I'm under the impression those are more flexible, month-to-month etc).

Re: The iPad 1

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Post by enraged_camel »

taligent wrote: post #57
AJ007 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Talking to casual users, "my iphone/ipad is slow" was a reason they were motivated to purchase the newest model of iphone. When it comes to repeat purchases, I wouldn't find it difficult to imagine that responsible for double digit percentages of new iOS device sales. Unfortunately for Apple, Steve Jobs is dead and the magic is gone. Now I hear those same users say they are "tired of the iPhone" and want something ne…

>Unfortunately for Apple, Steve Jobs is dead and the magic is gone. Steve Jobs was alive when the iPhone 5 was conceptualised and designed. Also nobody cares about your anecdotes. I hate to be rude but seriously they are meaningless.

Not sure why you got downvoted, because you're exactly right: anecdotes are meaningless. In addition, Steve Jobs may be gone, but he reportedly left Apple with four years worth of product ideas, and like you say, iPhone 5 was designed when he was at the helm. The only thing he would probably have done differently is that he wouldn't have signed off on Apple Maps in its current state. But that's neither here nor there.

Re: The iPad 1

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Post by cmwelsh »

ja27 wrote: post #17
axx wrote: post #3

When the iPad 1 launched in germany, i bought a 64GB model with 3G. I payed more than 800 Euros. And now Apple tells me "it's to old, go and sell it on eBay for 150 bucks". Are you fucking kidding me? I'm a Apple user for ages, i have two Mac Pros, three MacBook Pros (family), one MacBook Air and all iPhones that Apple ever made. I sold every old piece of hardware or replaced it when i needed a faster or newer model.…

I didn't get an iPad 1, partly because I figured the 2nd or 3rd gen device would be so much better. Standing behind me in the iPad 2 line was a guy that had just sold his iPad 1 for $100 less than he'd paid for it. Essentially leasing an iPad for $100 a year sounds like a fine deal. It made me wonder why Apple doesn't do leases or some sort of hardware "subscriptions".

Apple has done this already by offering 0% interest loans on their website through their credit card partner, barclaycard.

Re: The iPad 1

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Post by mark_l_watson »

jaysonelliot wrote: post #24

The disappointment, to me, isn't with the iPad alone. It's with the new move in the industry to non-upgradable devices and internet-dependent software. I've enjoyed my iPad 1 since the day I bought it, and I haven't seen any need to replace it with a newer model. Neither the Retina Display nor the camera were particularly important to me, and I didn't have much need for more storage or memory. Would I like to use iOS…

What annoys me: the expensive to replace batteries on iOS devices. My wife and I have new Samsung Galaxy III S phones and I was giving her a little lecture on recharging strategies for maximizing battery life (same lecture as for our iPads, BTW). Then I checked out how incredibly cheap Samsung replacement batteries are on Amazon. Husband fail, but recovery :-)

So, I asked her to be careful of her iPad recharging strategy, but recharge the III S at will. BTW, both devices seem to have about 10 hours of active use time between charges. Also with the III S's higher resolution screen I have started using it for watching Netflix, TED talks, etc., etc., so the battery life of my iPad may not be an issue.

Re: The iPad 1

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Post by LordIllidan »

taligent wrote: post #59
Nicole060 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So I can't blame Apple for feeling the same way. When they originally released iPad 1, they probably didn't quite anticipate how graphical and visual the user interfaces would eventually turn out to be. Oh yeah ? Apple has always skimped out on ram on every single device and made you pay a premium to get more. That wasn't a real problem on macs in the past because it wasn't difficult to add ram yourself, but now wi…

I really don't know where to start with this ridiculous diatribe. Firstly as for your MacBook Air. OSX runs fine with 2GB and shouldn't be swapping constantly for browsing. And not sure why you are complaining that you got 200 euros for a 4 year old machine. Secondly you seem to be really bitter about not buying the cheaper and arguably nastier laptops. Why not buy them ? Clearly the only thing that concerns you is s…

I am going to have to agree with Nicole060 here. I recently bought one of the new Macbook Pros for work - non retina, 4GB RAM.

It became as slow as hell. I am a developer.. I need at least one VM with IE open, I need to have Chrome open, photoshop open, xcode, etc. Luckily I was able to upgrade it with 16GB of Corsair Vengeance RAM, and it's now a pleasure to work with.

Apple only offers an 8GB increase on their online store at 100$ for my macbook pro.. and at a 100$ increase.. In my opinion, 8GB should be standard.

I love my Macbook, wouldn't give it up, I like using OSX, but I really do believe that Apple tends to rip us off when it comes to specs. And FYI, I can't imagine using OSX with 2GB.. my mac mini had 2 GB of RAM and it ran like a pig until I got 4GB of RAM into it.

We all know Apple has outrageous margins on their products.. fine, I am not against them making money. However, I do wish they invested more into their products.

Re: The iPad 1

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Post by melling »

How much more would it have cost to put an extra 256MB in the original iPad? Apple has more money in the bank than they know what to do with; over $100B. It might be a better use of the money to give a little extra RAM to make their devices run better.

Re: The iPad 1

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Post by MatthewPhillips »

This is going to become a really problem for developers. As people upgrade, they don't simply throw the old iPads away. Some sell them, but others give them to their parents. And older people will keep technology around for a long time. My mother has my old 1st generation Kindle, which happens to work fine, and probably will keep using it for many years to come. The same will happen to the iPad 1 (and 2, etc.). They won't notice, or care about maps or Siri, but they will notice if Facebook stops working.

Re: The iPad 1

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Post by mark_l_watson »

mythz wrote: post #36
jaysonelliot wrote: post #24

The disappointment, to me, isn't with the iPad alone. It's with the new move in the industry to non-upgradable devices and internet-dependent software. I've enjoyed my iPad 1 since the day I bought it, and I haven't seen any need to replace it with a newer model. Neither the Retina Display nor the camera were particularly important to me, and I didn't have much need for more storage or memory. Would I like to use iOS…

It should be pretty well known by now that upgradable components in hand-held devices is a losing strategy. The mass populace of Consumers just don't care, they wan't something that Just Works , that's simple, pretty and light with a long battery life. Which appears to align with Apple's focus perfectly. I think it's safe to assume that iOS devices aren't going to come with upgradeable internal components. They've go…

What about the 20 seconds it takes to replace a battery on my Samsung Galaxy III S?

That isn't being upgradable, but at least fixable. Same with putting in a chip before going to Europe, etc.

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